We'll forgive Fred Phelps, but apparently the hate for Javascript just runs too deep.
Fortunately, we have an answer for that: http://newstechnica.com/2014/03/27/mozilla-announces-javascr... It solves the equality operator problem by not having any.
OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
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#42This is petulant and abrasive. Eich's personal politic's is only tangentially related to OkCupid business and not at all related to Mozilla's business. Also it should be obvious that Eich != Mozilla. It is very off-putting to have a company bludgeon it's user with the personal politics of it's runners.
The takeaway is that businesses and non-profits don't operate in a vacuum, and there are real consequences for having a bigot as the head of your operation. I find it highly disingenuous to call supporting equal rights "petulant and abrasive".
There are plenty of ways to support equal rights that aren't abrasive. OKCupid's actions in this case are abrasive--clearly abrasive enough to bother some people who strongly support marriage equality (such as myself).
Re: OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
#43Why doesn't OkCupid take a bolder stance and remove all JavaScript from their site? Brendan invented it. I guess that wouldn't be convenient. Better to ask users to inconvenience themselves. This really isn't fair to all of the people who have worked so hard to make Firefox what it is today.
> This really isn't fair to all of the people who have worked so hard to make Firefox what it is today.
Do you mean it's not fair because it hurts these people, even though they haven't done anything objectionable?
Re: OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
#44Why doesn't OkCupid take a bolder stance and remove all JavaScript from their site? Brendan invented it. I guess that wouldn't be convenient. Better to ask users to inconvenience themselves. This really isn't fair to all of the people who have worked so hard to make Firefox what it is today.
> Brendan invented it.
You're just giving people more of a reason to hate him.
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#45Mozilla released a blog post on Saturday clearly stating: > Mozilla supports equality for all, including marriage equality for LGBT couples. https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/03/29/mozilla-supports-lg... There's no evidence that Brendan Eich will bring any of his political views to the workplace; this continued backlash feels unwarranted.
They released it too late. If they had ANY clue, they'd have thought of this ahead of time. e.g. Brendan donates $2k or $5k to a gay charity requiring a public record (as the Prop 8 donation did) three months ago, someone notices two months ago, he can then stay as gnomic as he likes. Something like that. But, y’know, literally nobody in the upper echelons of Mozilla thought of this. That neither Eich or the board th…
>That neither Eich or the board thought of this ahead of the time does, actually, suggest they're not up to the job. This is SIMPLE STUFF.
Evidence suggests that they've been spending months fighting a battle pertaining to picking an insider as CEO, which ultimately caused three members to resign from the Moz Co. board.
Which explains why they were so unprepared for anything else.
e: Bogus theory by Ars and WSJ, Mozilla issued a statement that the shake-up of board members was planned well in advance amongst themselves for various reasons.
Re: OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
The takeaway is that businesses and non-profits don't operate in a vacuum, and there are real consequences for having a bigot as the head of your operation. I find it highly disingenuous to call supporting equal rights "petulant and abrasive".
There are plenty of ways to support equal rights that aren't abrasive. OKCupid's actions in this case are abrasive--clearly abrasive enough to bother some people who strongly support marriage equality (such as myself).
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Re: OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
#47Edit: this link works for everyone (it is provided in another submission): http://www.okcupid.com/home?mozilla_message=1 Edit 2: the Internet Exploder typo is theirs. Here is the text (for those who don't use Firefox): Hello there, Mozilla Firefox user. Pardon this interruption of your OkCupid experience. Mozilla’s new CEO, Brendan Eich, is an opponent of equal rights for gay couples. We would therefore prefer that o…
> Edit: this link works for everyone (it is provided in another submission): http://www.okcupid.com/home?mozilla_message=1
That message doesn't work for me. I think you have to be logged in.
Re: OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
#48oh look , at okcupid we just found out a way to use the current news as advertising!
i think such stuff despises more than eich's support for prop 8.
Re: OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
#49OK, so are they going to make a shitstorm out of this single issue, or apply principles equally? IOW: Are we (they) going to dig up ALL of the CEOs of all the products they use and find out who else donated money to anti-gay-marriage organizations and boycott all of them? Here's a partial list: http://www.phillymag.com/news/2012/08/01/boycott-chick-fil-a...
No one should ever do anything for social justice reasons unless they solve every problem in the history of mankind as well!
Re: OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
#50Here's the full text:
Hello there, Mozilla Firefox user. Pardon this interruption of your OkCupid experience.
Mozilla’s new CEO, Brendan Eich, is an opponent of equal rights for gay couples. We would therefore prefer that our users not use Mozilla software to access OkCupid.
Politics is normally not the business of a website, and we all know there’s a lot more wrong with the world than misguided CEOs. So you might wonder why we’re asserting ourselves today. This is why: we’ve devoted the last ten years to bringing people—all people—together. If individuals like Mr. Eich had their way, then roughly 8% of the relationships we’ve worked so hard to bring about would be illegal. Equality for gay relationships is personally important to many of us here at OkCupid. But it’s professionally important to the entire company. OkCupid is for creating love. Those who seek to deny love and instead enforce misery, shame, and frustration are our enemies, and we wish them nothing but failure.
If you want to keep using Firefox, the link at the bottom will take you through to the site.
However, we urge you to consider different software for accessing OkCupid:
Google Chrome / Internet Exploder / Opera / Safari
Thank you, OkCupid
Background on Mr. Eich and Mozilla
In 2008, Mr. Eich supported the passage of California’s Prop 8, a statewide initiative to ban gay marriage, with a $1000 donation. Granted, his contribution is now six years in the past, and people can change. But Mr. Eich’s boilerplate statements in the time since make it seem like he has the same views now as he did then. Mozilla recently promoted him to CEO, hence the issue only now coming to our attention. His donation was known to Mozilla at the time of his promotion, and, furthermore, CEOs are rewarded based on their company’s performance. The CEO is the visionary for a company and its products. We are sad to think that any OkCupid page loads would even indirectly contribute towards the success of an individual who supported Prop 8—and who for all we know would support it again. We wish Mozilla’s institutional commitment to freedom and openness were better reflected by their choice of leadership.
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