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Re: Ask YC Startups: Do you use Django, Rails, PHP or Other?

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Post by jacquesm »

snprbob86 wrote: post #39
whalesalad wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We get a lot less traffic during the summer months (school isn't in session) and towards the end of the year for the holidays... but we do get quite more traffic than our quantcast page suggests. It does look like I was totally full of my own shit though, we're clearly not that big when it comes to the other Django sites out there.

It looks like an average of 50,000 monthly uniques when school is in session. Do you mind sharing your actual numbers? And can you hazard a guess why Quantcast is so inaccurate? It seems curious, considering you have their javascript tracking code on every page of your site. If their tracker is so broken, why use them and not Google Analytics?

Uniques monthly is totally meaningless.

This comes up with some frequency. Uniques daily * 30 != uniques monthly, after all, if you undouble on a monthly basis and you get 30K visitors each day and they're all different it looks like you have a cool 900K uniques monthly. But at the same time it means you are completely not sticky! All your users are replaced by new ones every single day.

A better measure is uniques daily, daily growth in uniques and compare that with your uniques monthly. If you're doing it right you should see (30average repeats) + (30average growth)

Those are figures that you can do some planning on. Monthly uniques does not do anything other than look good on paper. Bad websites look even better :)

Re: Ask YC Startups: Do you use Django, Rails, PHP or Other?

#42

Post by vijayr »

boundlessdreamz wrote: post #21
rewind wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought the grammar police had weekends off.

Am I the only one who thinks that people who are correcting the grammar and spelling are actually doing a service. It really doesn't matter in a forum like this.But if you have poor grammar,you may find that the impression you make on other people may be less than stellar.A good command of the language can be incredibly valuable. [Palin vs Obama]

valid point, not sure about the example though.

Palin's speeches won't make much sense, even if they are grammatically correct and presented elegantly.

Re: Ask YC Startups: Do you use Django, Rails, PHP or Other?

#43

Post by snprbob86 »

jacquesm wrote: post #41
snprbob86 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like an average of 50,000 monthly uniques when school is in session. Do you mind sharing your actual numbers? And can you hazard a guess why Quantcast is so inaccurate? It seems curious, considering you have their javascript tracking code on every page of your site. If their tracker is so broken, why use them and not Google Analytics?

Uniques monthly is totally meaningless. This comes up with some frequency. Uniques daily * 30 != uniques monthly, after all, if you undouble on a monthly basis and you get 30K visitors each day and they're all different it looks like you have a cool 900K uniques monthly. But at the same time it means you are completely not sticky! All your users are replaced by new ones every single day . A better measure is uniques…

As I understand it, Quantcast's monthly uniques is the totally number of different users to visit the site during that month. I assumed that daily uniques were meaningless because of the nature of SchoolRack. Not every student logs in every day. It seemed reasonable to assume that a month is a reasonable amount of time for most students, teachers, and parents to login at least once. This tells you the actual number of people who actively use such a service.

Re: Ask YC Startups: Do you use Django, Rails, PHP or Other?

#44

Post by jacquesm »

snprbob86 wrote: post #43
jacquesm wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uniques monthly is totally meaningless. This comes up with some frequency. Uniques daily * 30 != uniques monthly, after all, if you undouble on a monthly basis and you get 30K visitors each day and they're all different it looks like you have a cool 900K uniques monthly. But at the same time it means you are completely not sticky! All your users are replaced by new ones every single day . A better measure is uniques…

As I understand it, Quantcast's monthly uniques is the totally number of different users to visit the site during that month. I assumed that daily uniques were meaningless because of the nature of SchoolRack. Not every student logs in every day. It seemed reasonable to assume that a month is a reasonable amount of time for most students, teachers, and parents to login at least once. This tells you the actual number o…

only if you put the stats script on the pages behind the login and not on the others.

Re: Ask YC Startups: Do you use Django, Rails, PHP or Other?

#45

Post by basugasubaku »

bmelton wrote: post #22
boundlessdreamz wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I the only one who thinks that people who are correcting the grammar and spelling are actually doing a service. It really doesn't matter in a forum like this.But if you have poor grammar,you may find that the impression you make on other people may be less than stellar.A good command of the language can be incredibly valuable. [Palin vs Obama]

I don't know if it's fair or not, but I always feel like the conversation at HN is somewhat... academic, for lack of a better word. The nature of the community seems to encourage one's best behavior, or at least better behavior than I would exhibit in some other places perhaps. Grammar correction is somewhat a conundrum. On the one hand, it IS sort of rude to point out the faults of another, especially as it can ofte…

> Until about two years ago, I had honestly NEVER seen anyone use "should of" in print, and now it seems to be a prevalent mistake.

There is no way that is true:

http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&#38...

Re: Ask YC Startups: Do you use Django, Rails, PHP or Other?

#46

Post by bmelton »

basugasubaku wrote: post #45
bmelton wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know if it's fair or not, but I always feel like the conversation at HN is somewhat... academic, for lack of a better word. The nature of the community seems to encourage one's best behavior, or at least better behavior than I would exhibit in some other places perhaps. Grammar correction is somewhat a conundrum. On the one hand, it IS sort of rude to point out the faults of another, especially as it can ofte…

> Until about two years ago, I had honestly NEVER seen anyone use "should of" in print, and now it seems to be a prevalent mistake. There is no way that is true: http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&#38...

While I don't understand how that relates to the truthiness of what I've said, it looks like almost all of the results of the linked page are from 2006 forward.

Regardless, while I may be fuzzy on the timetable, it is a recent phenomena for me.

Re: Ask YC Startups: Do you use Django, Rails, PHP or Other?

#47

Post by elai »

boundlessdreamz wrote: post #21
rewind wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought the grammar police had weekends off.

Am I the only one who thinks that people who are correcting the grammar and spelling are actually doing a service. It really doesn't matter in a forum like this.But if you have poor grammar,you may find that the impression you make on other people may be less than stellar.A good command of the language can be incredibly valuable. [Palin vs Obama]

Linguistics study states that grammar is always evolving and there is no such "thing" as grammar. How do you know "should of" is my minor dialectical difference of English compared to yours. It's like argentinian spanish people correcting other spanish people to use vos instead of tu. Or nothing ending with a preposition. And being a good orator doesn't mean strict adherence to a one persons capture of grammar. If that was true, then shakesphere wouldn't be a good playwright!

Re: Ask YC Startups: Do you use Django, Rails, PHP or Other?

#48

Post by basugasubaku »

bmelton wrote: post #46
basugasubaku wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Until about two years ago, I had honestly NEVER seen anyone use "should of" in print, and now it seems to be a prevalent mistake. There is no way that is true: http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&#38...

While I don't understand how that relates to the truthiness of what I've said, it looks like almost all of the results of the linked page are from 2006 forward. Regardless, while I may be fuzzy on the timetable, it is a recent phenomena for me.

Google is ranking by date because they have the same relevance. You can play with the date ranges in the search box. I picked Jan 1 2007 as the end date because you said you "NEVER" saw this construction in text until a "about two years ago".
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