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AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by dlgeek »

pdq wrote: post #9
evan_ wrote: post #5

I'm surprised this is being cast as Amazon responding to Google's price cuts- the AWS conference was scheduled months in advance so if anything Google heard about the price cuts and announced their own just ahead of the conference as a (successful; apparently) attempt to take the wind out of Amazon's announcement. Interesting that they dropped by the same amount; either it was a lucky guess, Amazon adjusted their adj…

I'll go with Occam's Razor: Amazon just responded to Google's newly announced pricing. To believe they guessed correctly or they have a "mole" is pretty far fetched.

Except Amazon also dropped prices at the exact same event last year, when Google hadn't.

Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by pdq »

dlgeek wrote: post #11
pdq wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll go with Occam's Razor: Amazon just responded to Google's newly announced pricing. To believe they guessed correctly or they have a "mole" is pretty far fetched.

Except Amazon also dropped prices at the exact same event last year, when Google hadn't.

I'm referring to the fact that the prices matched, not the timing.

Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by akg_67 »

I am wondering how many and who in enterprises are using Google cloud? I understand few startups, typically associated with Google in some way, are using google cloud. I just can't imagine many enterprises putting up with poor customer service and ego of Google.

Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by h1karu »

akg_67 wrote: post #13

I am wondering how many and who in enterprises are using Google cloud? I understand few startups, typically associated with Google in some way, are using google cloud. I just can't imagine many enterprises putting up with poor customer service and ego of Google.

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Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by freehunter »

akg_67 wrote: post #13

I am wondering how many and who in enterprises are using Google cloud? I understand few startups, typically associated with Google in some way, are using google cloud. I just can't imagine many enterprises putting up with poor customer service and ego of Google.

I work for a large enterprise using Google's cloud. It's quite a different experience from using our own servers to handle the same thing. We are now at the whim of a company that doesn't always announce changes until they've happened, and those changes don't always work within our business model.

Yes, it's a nightmare.

Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by umsm »

As I look at the pricing wars, I realized something: If you choose to use "cloud" based in your projects or businesses, you will never know the long-term costs associated with operating in the cloud.

The cloud provider can raise or lower prices as they see fit. What prevents these for-profit companies to keep lowering prices and not raising them?

Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by icebraining »

umsm wrote: post #16

As I look at the pricing wars, I realized something: If you choose to use "cloud" based in your projects or businesses, you will never know the long-term costs associated with operating in the cloud. The cloud provider can raise or lower prices as they see fit. What prevents these for-profit companies to keep lowering prices and not raising them?

Nothing truly prevents them, but competition provides an incentive for doing otherwise.

Of course, that only works if you use provider-agnostic services (e.g. raw VMs, services with standard APIs) instead of locking yourself in to some proprietary service/API, otherwise the switching costs might be prohibitive.

Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by bgray »

umsm wrote: post #16

As I look at the pricing wars, I realized something: If you choose to use "cloud" based in your projects or businesses, you will never know the long-term costs associated with operating in the cloud. The cloud provider can raise or lower prices as they see fit. What prevents these for-profit companies to keep lowering prices and not raising them?

Competition?

Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by bduerst »

umsm wrote: post #16

As I look at the pricing wars, I realized something: If you choose to use "cloud" based in your projects or businesses, you will never know the long-term costs associated with operating in the cloud. The cloud provider can raise or lower prices as they see fit. What prevents these for-profit companies to keep lowering prices and not raising them?

Simple Answer: Competition.

The cost per performance ratio is always going down too, which translates into lowered costs for them and ultimately the customer. They also can't collude together (at least not legally) to raise prices.

Re: AWS Responds with Price Cuts: Google vs AWS Pricing Round 2

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Post by akg_67 »

freehunter wrote: post #15
akg_67 wrote: post #13

I am wondering how many and who in enterprises are using Google cloud? I understand few startups, typically associated with Google in some way, are using google cloud. I just can't imagine many enterprises putting up with poor customer service and ego of Google.

I work for a large enterprise using Google's cloud. It's quite a different experience from using our own servers to handle the same thing. We are now at the whim of a company that doesn't always announce changes until they've happened, and those changes don't always work within our business model. Yes, it's a nightmare.

Just curious why did you chose Google cloud over AWS or Rackspace. Migrating from internal servers to public cloud makes sense in some instances. Have you looked at private cloud for example using OpenStack or vCloud?
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