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Oculus founder didn’t expect “so many death threats” after Facebook deal

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Re: Oculus founder didn’t expect “so many death threats” after Facebook deal

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If it wasn't for the money, I'd think these guys were just clueless. Billions excuse much.

It's really hard to get people to understand something their paycheck requires them not to.

What, precisely, is it that you think they don't understand (and a bunch of random gamers do)?

Re: Oculus founder didn’t expect “so many death threats” after Facebook deal

#22
post #6

Death threats are obviously inexcusable. This shouldn't even have to be said. But this is a classic PR strategy. When you do something that makes many people very angry, all you have to do is wait for someone to say something incivil. Then make headlines with whatever it is they said. Then the message shifts to how you've been wronged. And any time anyone complains or argues against what you did, associate the critic…

Directly made me think of this scene in season 1 of House of Cards. Brilliant.

Re: Oculus founder didn’t expect “so many death threats” after Facebook deal

#23

Jesus Christ. Death threats ? Harassing phone calls to their families ? I mean, I understand that a lot of the community supporting them has a visceral hatred towards Facebook. I don't share the negative response towards Facebook's purchase of Oculus, but I certainly understand where it's coming from. But death threats ? That's insane. What is wrong with these people??

This is very common in the game industry, unfortunately, and Oculus so far has only sold and marketed their product to early adopters, many of which are hardcore gamers. It happens to both AAA and indie game developers(http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/15/4622252/plague-of-game-dev-...) regularly. Attacks like this are inexcusible, but in no way surprise me. In fact I'd be surprised if Palmer didn't get any death threats, considering the internet reaction to the FB acquisition.

Re: Oculus founder didn’t expect “so many death threats” after Facebook deal

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Oculus VR was in trouble soon as Sony and Microsoft started to develop very quickly their own VR headsets. There was just very little market let for Oculus VR that mattered. I think they basically took advantage of Facebook with some grand and likely unrealistic vision. I would be surprised if Oculus VR ever lives up to its vision. Rather we will be using Sony and Microsoft VR headsets in the next decade if VR does i…

How can you make such predictive statements when not one of the companies you've mentioned has actually released their consumer product? There was no market grab by Sony or Microsoft because there is no market currently operating.

Re: Oculus founder didn’t expect “so many death threats” after Facebook deal

#25
post #2

If it wasn't for the money, I'd think these guys were just clueless. Billions excuse much.

What here indicates cluelessness to you?

That they say they're surprised about the backlash. That means they're either clueless or lying. I'd vote lying myself though.

Re: Oculus founder didn’t expect “so many death threats” after Facebook deal

#26
post #6

Death threats are obviously inexcusable. This shouldn't even have to be said. But this is a classic PR strategy. When you do something that makes many people very angry, all you have to do is wait for someone to say something incivil. Then make headlines with whatever it is they said. Then the message shifts to how you've been wronged. And any time anyone complains or argues against what you did, associate the critic…

Unfortunately death threats are a very real and toxic problem in the gaming community. I'd say not only is it believable, but both Oculus and Facebook were somewhat naïve for not expecting them. Or perhaps they weren't expecting the stalking and harassment to be serious.

Either way, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because it does commonly happen and they have every right to be annoyed about it.

Re: Oculus founder didn’t expect “so many death threats” after Facebook deal

#28

I'm not surprised. I quit playing multi-player online games (Starcraft) because of excessive violence threats and verbal abuse. It's an unfortunate side effect of the gaming community, and I feel the Oculus appealed to that community.

Actually my first thought was also, "well, it is targeted toward gamers". But Starcraft? Was your handle "uglyblacklesbianexxonexecutive"? I play starcraft II almost every day and I find the community very polite. The worst I ever see is occasional gloating after a victory or accusations of cheating in defeat. Most matches the only chat is "glhf" and "gg".

I don't think I've seen anybody acting badly either. I've even had people talk to me after thrashing me to give me hints on how not to lose so thoroughly next time. I've played since SC1, there's never really been anybody malicious in a decade or whatever it has been since then.

Re: Oculus founder didn’t expect “so many death threats” after Facebook deal

#29

I'm not surprised. I quit playing multi-player online games (Starcraft) because of excessive violence threats and verbal abuse. It's an unfortunate side effect of the gaming community, and I feel the Oculus appealed to that community.

Actually my first thought was also, "well, it is targeted toward gamers". But Starcraft? Was your handle "uglyblacklesbianexxonexecutive"? I play starcraft II almost every day and I find the community very polite. The worst I ever see is occasional gloating after a victory or accusations of cheating in defeat. Most matches the only chat is "glhf" and "gg".

Yeah if most players are anything like me they're just trying to keep their production going. Firing off the standard insults you'd hear in CoD or Halo takes too much time.
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