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San Francisco Police Department: Duties, Salary and Benefits

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Re: San Francisco Police Department: Duties, Salary and Benefits

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112k seems pretty high for entry level work, considering they most likely don't have a college education, but maybe it makes it possible for them to live here

Doesn't the salary reflect what the people of San Francisco believe their work to be worth?

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These men and women are signing up to protect us, at great personal physical (not to mention psychological) risk. They should absolutely earn a living wage that enables them to live in the community in which they serve.

I think they should be paid the market rate, just like everyone else.

What is the market rate for police officers? Where is the police officer market?

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I think the only way we could to tell if this is too much or too little is if we had a free market for protection services. Since we don't, we can only speculate. Maybe, it's actually not enough. I can't object anyone receiving a high salary, but if this salary is paid out of my own pocket with no consent of mine and with the police force regularly abusing their powers, then yes, I believe this is not just too much -…

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These men and women are signing up to protect us, at great personal physical (not to mention psychological) risk. They should absolutely earn a living wage that enables them to live in the community in which they serve.

So do members of the military and they get paid half as much.

Well, then they should get a pay raise. It's about time anyways. You can easily make $150k a year as a private contractor.

Re: San Francisco Police Department: Duties, Salary and Benefits

#45

Looks to be a supply issue for new police officers. I hope the government will create a new foreign worker visa to allow talented foreign peace keepers and law men fast tracked entry in to the US to ensure the safety and prosperity of our citizens and future generations.

If all the other Bay Area police departments offer similar compensation and benefits, as seems to be the case, SF will have a hard time finding new recruits at lower pay. So it's impossible to tell if it is a demand or supply issue. The first thing you would want to look at is the number of applicants.

This is very similar to the issue with CEO compensation - high pay at competitors just encourages even higher pay with little to contain it. I wonder if they use the same consultants to justify ever increasing pay and benefits.

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#46
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post #8

These men and women are signing up to protect us, at great personal physical (not to mention psychological) risk. They should absolutely earn a living wage that enables them to live in the community in which they serve.

So do members of the military and they get paid half as much.

I think "enables them to live in the community in which they serve" is a key point that doesn't apply to military personnel in the same way.

Re: San Francisco Police Department: Duties, Salary and Benefits

#47

112k seems pretty high for entry level work, considering they most likely don't have a college education, but maybe it makes it possible for them to live here

There's a range listed because (I can't speak for SF specifically, but I have police friends in other Bay Area cities) different skill sets get you a different starting pay. For example, if you have a college degree and speak Spanish, your starting salary will bump up from 80k. If you are part of a K9 unit, your starting salary will bump up from 80k.

Re: San Francisco Police Department: Duties, Salary and Benefits

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It's not just the salary that is high - the pension benefit (as is typical for California) is astonishing: Up to 90% of salary at the very early retirement age of 58. These kind of pensions schemes are the reason many states (especially California) are experiencing budgetary crises.

(1) The California budget crisis was as much political gridlock as anything else and appears to be currently resolved. Certain people used it as a an opportunity to attack public services and public sector unions.

(2) These particular salaries (SF police department) are financed out of local revenues and have nothing to do with the state budget anyway.

(3) The cost of living in SF is sky high as we all know, good for them for paying appropriately if they want to get the best people.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they should be paid the market rate, just like everyone else.

What is the market rate for police officers? Where is the police officer market?

There is absolutely massive supply trying to get these high paying jobs. You can look at the number of applicants. Acceptance rates resemble those from Ivy league schools. I know because when I found out, I wanted to be a fire fighter. But then I realized that it's kinda like the mafia. You have to know someone on the inside to get in.

Re: San Francisco Police Department: Duties, Salary and Benefits

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post #32
post #8

These men and women are signing up to protect us, at great personal physical (not to mention psychological) risk. They should absolutely earn a living wage that enables them to live in the community in which they serve.

I think they should be paid the market rate, just like everyone else.

People with no qualms to include prospective bribes and extortion money in their calculations could accept lower wages. Free market at its best.
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