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Re: Ethereum

#51

Post by ttflee »

milesf wrote: post #11

Spend 30 seconds on the site. Didn't get it. Move on. If this is important, it will appear again on (HN|Reddit|etc) for me to take a closer look. Oh, and 30 seconds is a looooong time to spend on a site. I would guess people spend no more than 5 to 10 seconds on a site before they decide to investigate further or move on.

I found its wiki a clearer but longer version:

https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/%5BEnglish%5D-White-Pa...

In short, it is a proposal for a framework/protocol/platform/you-name-it sort of like BitCoin with more feature.

Re: Ethereum

#52

Post by powera »

Joeboy wrote: post #28

I'm kind of appalled by all the comments complaining that people don't understand Ethereum after spending a very short amount of time on the site. If you think it looks interesting, investigate further. If not, move on. Not being able to understand something after 30s doesn't mean that thing has no value.

Why are there so many comments complaining this is confusing, and so few explaining what it actually does?

Re: Ethereum

#53

Post by iamstef »

tlrobinson wrote: post #30
bengotow wrote: post #19

What lost me were the code examples for things like "name registration." Take this line for example: contract.storage[tx.data[0]] = tx.data[1] They could have at least used a named local variable for "tx.data[0]" to give some context. What the hell is this doing?

This is literally just storing a key/value pair in a map. i.e. Registering a name. It's not complicated, and that's the point (it takes a few lines of code to recreate "Namecoin" on Ethereum)

It may not be complicated, but it really comes out of left field. It really lacks context

Re: Ethereum

#54

Post by gphilip »

binarymax wrote: post #31

Ethereum can be used to codify, decentralize, secure and trade just about anything: voting, ... So, just the other day, I was lamenting with my friend and we had a thought experiment on whether it would be possible to use a bitcoin-like network/blockchain to solve the identity problem for voting on the internet. We had some rock solid ideas for lots of details, but got stuck on the anonymous vote part. For example, e…

Look up "receipt-free voting" protocols. There has been some theoretical work done on this (lots of papers turn up in Google Scholar), but I don't know if this has been implemented yet.

Re: Ethereum

#55

Post by Joeboy »

tlrobinson wrote: post #30
bengotow wrote: post #19

What lost me were the code examples for things like "name registration." Take this line for example: contract.storage[tx.data[0]] = tx.data[1] They could have at least used a named local variable for "tx.data[0]" to give some context. What the hell is this doing?

This is literally just storing a key/value pair in a map. i.e. Registering a name. It's not complicated, and that's the point (it takes a few lines of code to recreate "Namecoin" on Ethereum)

So it might be clearer to say

  name = tx.data[0]
  value = tx.data[1]
  contract.storage[name] = value

Re: Ethereum

#56

Post by milesf »

applecore wrote: post #32
milesf wrote: post #11

Spend 30 seconds on the site. Didn't get it. Move on. If this is important, it will appear again on (HN|Reddit|etc) for me to take a closer look. Oh, and 30 seconds is a looooong time to spend on a site. I would guess people spend no more than 5 to 10 seconds on a site before they decide to investigate further or move on.

That was pretty much the response to Bitcoin five years ago, when it first appeared on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=463793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=599852

Yeah, and I missed that boat :) I wish I could dive into everything I read, but pragmatically I just don't have the time to chase down every rabbit hole.

This is why the Internet is so powerful. It only take a couple of people to pursue something to report back to others and say "hey, this is important".

Re: Ethereum

#57

Post by bachback »

milesf wrote: post #11

Spend 30 seconds on the site. Didn't get it. Move on. If this is important, it will appear again on (HN|Reddit|etc) for me to take a closer look. Oh, and 30 seconds is a looooong time to spend on a site. I would guess people spend no more than 5 to 10 seconds on a site before they decide to investigate further or move on.

spend 5 seconds reading that post. moving on.

Re: Ethereum

#58

Post by [deleted] »

powera wrote: post #52
Joeboy wrote: post #28

I'm kind of appalled by all the comments complaining that people don't understand Ethereum after spending a very short amount of time on the site. If you think it looks interesting, investigate further. If not, move on. Not being able to understand something after 30s doesn't mean that thing has no value.

Why are there so many comments complaining this is confusing, and so few explaining what it actually does?

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Re: Ethereum

#59

Post by milesf »

iancarroll wrote: post #15
milesf wrote: post #11

Spend 30 seconds on the site. Didn't get it. Move on. If this is important, it will appear again on (HN|Reddit|etc) for me to take a closer look. Oh, and 30 seconds is a looooong time to spend on a site. I would guess people spend no more than 5 to 10 seconds on a site before they decide to investigate further or move on.

You couldn't take a minute to actually read it over? It's not hard to understand. If you don't want to give new ideas the time of day, don't click on it; and especially don't waste your precious time on commenting about it.

Actually, it's because I think maybe there's something there that I commented on it. I just didn't get it. The emerging norm for people with ideas is to package them in a way that draws people in.

I'm guessing the majority of people on HN have some great idea that burning in their gut. Hopefully they will realize the important of great marketing and sales copy, because there are countless other ideas vying for our attention.

Re: Ethereum

#60

Post by corresation »

Joeboy wrote: post #28

I'm kind of appalled by all the comments complaining that people don't understand Ethereum after spending a very short amount of time on the site. If you think it looks interesting, investigate further. If not, move on. Not being able to understand something after 30s doesn't mean that thing has no value.

Not a single person said that it has no value. But the site does an arguably poor job communicating what it is about (to those who say "watch the video", understand that many people consider videos a last resort. There has to be a significant lure to even go that far, and for many of us it didn't seem worth it).

Comments about the site are entirely appropriate on HN (this is something that concerns most of us), and you could consider your own advice and simply skip over them if they don't interest you, instead of wasting emotions on being appalled.

Exactly as others experienced, I skimmed the site and found nothing compelling me to look deeper. The site gives the feeling of significant style but little substance (technologists usually put attention only on substance, which itself is seldom compelling. There is a middle ground somewhere in between).

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