this is what I get with VPN and without VPN http://i.imgur.com/XNtDGYq.png
DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
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Re: DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
#42The NSA and GCHQ have been doing this for years, so why complain about Turkey doing this? The only difference I can see is targeting individuals vs targeting the general population.
Re: DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
#43I didn't see this posted on HN yet - Turekey is also blocking the Tor Project's website: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/03/when-tor-block-not-tor...
Re: DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
So every voter in Turkey essentially knows what Erdogan is doing. So nobody who understands democracy should vote for Erdogan. If however not enough people understand democracy ...
There are lots of voters believe in Erdogan because he said he's clean. It's all about uneducated public being manipulated through religion and patriotism. He talks about Islam and national flag. He's reading national anthem's lyrics in ads on TV.
>* It's all about uneducated public being manipulated through religion and patriotism.*
So, not much unlike the so-called educated public, being manipulated by anti-clericalism and globalisation!
Re: DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
#45Can you do a traceroute to 8.8.4.4? If it's actually reaching Google's network, then yeah, they're doing deep packet inspection on DNS traffic. If not, they're probably just routing 8.8.4.4 to a DNS server they control. If their goal is to manipulate traffic to www.youtube.com (probably to block access to certain videos), another solution would be for YouTube to require SSL for all connections coming from Turkish IPs…
> another solution would be for YouTube to require SSL for all connections coming from Turkish IPs. What? NO! They are messing with the DNS results from 8.8.4.4 (Google DNS) Too early for TLS to do anything. Maybe with HSTS, but I still doubt that HSTS is any effective against state level MITM.
Are you suggesting the government compromised a trusted SSL CA? Or are you just saying they blocked HTTPS?
Re: DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
#46The NSA and GCHQ have been doing this for years, so why complain about Turkey doing this? The only difference I can see is targeting individuals vs targeting the general population.
Maybe because it's the wrong thing to do regardless of who's doing it?
Re: DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
#47[sarcasm]
Having been enduring this kind of shit for years in mainland China, I am glad to see that it migrated to the (sort of) 'free' world, eventually!
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BTW, I have to manoeuvre some IP addresses of the CDNs in /etc/hosts in order to get access to github.com today, and some others for stack overflow.com last week. Interference from those who have power really sucks!
CDNs nowadays are so vulnerable to political issues, and some CDNs seems to be hurt by extended non-specific attacks/blocks to some other sites sharing the same IP addresses, due to some unrelated reasons, which makes me feel nostalgic to the web before CDNs.
Re: DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
#48There are many more public DNS servers out there, too many to block.There is a nice comprehensive list here: http://public-dns.tk/ You might also be interested in https://dnscrypt.eu .
They mangle all udp port 53 data.
Actually not all port 53 as there are some DNS servers still accessible and actually resolves stuff fine.
Re: DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
#49The NSA and GCHQ have been doing this for years, so why complain about Turkey doing this? The only difference I can see is targeting individuals vs targeting the general population.
Your tacit assertion is that if something wrong is done for years, and you find out it's done one more time, you shouldn't bother complaining about it. People like you have existed for all time, and will always exist, but your views truly don't matter: change comes because people continue to fight for what is right, despite the balance of years. Slavery on US soil had been legal and "normal" for hundreds of years, but that didn't stop people from "complaining" about it, and eventually changing it. Women's suffrage, same story. Wanton violation of our 4th Amendment rights in the digital age will proceed accordingly.
Re: DNS results now being manipulated in Turkey
#50The NSA and GCHQ have been doing this for years, so why complain about Turkey doing this? The only difference I can see is targeting individuals vs targeting the general population.
When I see messages like this, I start to think... who is this person. What are their agenda? What's the chance they are turkish?
After all, if you cannot see the difference between the alleged single person targeting and the blanket targeting of an entire population, I'm not really sure you deserve to be here.
I guess I'll leave you with that Stalin quote "Death of one man is a tragedy. Death of a million is a statistic".