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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by pekk »

negativity wrote: post #137
scanr wrote: post #46

I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

Ubuntu's user interface upgrades as of 11.10 (the "unity" interface) sucked so bad that I refuse to use Ubuntu beyond verision 10.04 on desktops/laptops. 11.10 was when I switched over to Mint and never looked back, and it seems that doing so was a wise move, given the Amazon adware/spamware/spyware that Canonical saw fit to include in more recent versions. http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182 Even though Mi…

Your feelings about Unity, and your preference for Mint because things regularly break and it gives you learning opportunities, may be things you really want to get said. But they are not really relevant to the question you are replying to.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by herokusaki »

JeremyMorgan wrote: post #143
negativity wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu's user interface upgrades as of 11.10 (the "unity" interface) sucked so bad that I refuse to use Ubuntu beyond verision 10.04 on desktops/laptops. 11.10 was when I switched over to Mint and never looked back, and it seems that doing so was a wise move, given the Amazon adware/spamware/spyware that Canonical saw fit to include in more recent versions. http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182 Even though Mi…

I too was pushed to mint after 11.10 but I'm sick of Mint now too. Not only do upgrades break it frequently, but I find small 'glitches' that end up taking up too much time tracking down. Stuff like Wifi dropping, and icons in my taskbar dissapearing, random browser crashes etc. What I did was decide to sit down and do an Arch install. Yes it takes time, and yes you have to know what you're doing. But I invested the…

In your experience, is Debian less prone to breakage when upgrading from stable to stable than Ubuntu with its release upgrades? I've run Debian but I have never been patient enough to stay with a stable release and find out.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by negativity »

pekk wrote: post #151
negativity wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu's user interface upgrades as of 11.10 (the "unity" interface) sucked so bad that I refuse to use Ubuntu beyond verision 10.04 on desktops/laptops. 11.10 was when I switched over to Mint and never looked back, and it seems that doing so was a wise move, given the Amazon adware/spamware/spyware that Canonical saw fit to include in more recent versions. http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182 Even though Mi…

Your feelings about Unity, and your preference for Mint because things regularly break and it gives you learning opportunities, may be things you really want to get said. But they are not really relevant to the question you are replying to.

I disagree, but I'll shut up now, and let other people talk.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by pekk »

ausjke wrote: post #105

I already moved all my servers to Debian, have not decided when I should do the same on the Desktop side yet, I don't really care about games/MIR/smart-UI-decision-made-for-me/one-GUI-does-all-screens etc, all I need is vim and a browser, with newer tested packages installed underneath for development.

If that's all you need then literally almost any distribution will work for you. ... including Ubuntu

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by rglullis »

vertex-four wrote: post #55
cturner wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

alt+tab. Used to work perfectly. Now broken. I've returned to debian stable, which comes with a gnome-2 legacy option that works out of the box just as well as it did a decade ago.

Go to [0], install, configure to either "all windows" or "all windows in current workspace", and alt+tab probably works like you want again. It's not terribly difficult. [0] https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/

Or, you know... just keep using an old, stable, dependable version. But you can't do that with GNOME since they are such rabid fans of the CADT model.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by ekianjo »

negativity wrote: post #137
scanr wrote: post #46

I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

Ubuntu's user interface upgrades as of 11.10 (the "unity" interface) sucked so bad that I refuse to use Ubuntu beyond verision 10.04 on desktops/laptops. 11.10 was when I switched over to Mint and never looked back, and it seems that doing so was a wise move, given the Amazon adware/spamware/spyware that Canonical saw fit to include in more recent versions. http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182 Even though Mi…

> 11.10 (the "unity" interface) sucked so bad

To be fair, Unity in 11.10 was quite broken and slow and resource hungry, but they fixed that in 12.04 and 12.10. I understand if people don't like Unity, but it's been getting faster and better than in the earlier versions. Personally I use cinnamon.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by smithzvk »

leaveyou wrote: post #77
skriticos2 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm running 12.04 with I7 Ivy Bridge HD4000 too and have no performance issues. Maybe it's op's hard drive? I'm running the system on an SSD and it's a night and day difference to the rotating equivalents.

8gigs of RAM :) ? in my experience not a single byte over 4GB RAM matters in linux desktop. I have (Ubuntu 13.10 on an old sonny vaio core 2 duo) 4GB and with all the workspace open and a virtual box with 1.5GB RAM allocated to it, i didn't reach 3GB (it stays around 2.7-2.8GB).

This makes me hopeful for my future. I have 4GB and am in the constant cycle of "close firefox so I can start my VM, close the VM so I can start Inkscape (with a big file), close inkscape so I can start firefox, and if you want to play one of these new GNU/Linux games: _close_ _everything_".

It honestly feels like there is some kind of problem with the system swapping (or failing to swap some memory) or some memory leak that I can't quite track down. Maybe something got fixed somewhere in the last two years...

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by smithzvk »

ycombasks wrote: post #111

Any idea if it will be possible to keep the menu in the title bar from being hidden? It looks like you have to mouse-over to show it, which could be a pain if I'm trying to access it often. I'd like to see where to take my mouse without guessing.

I just watched a video overview of the changes. It seems like you must still mouse over to reveal the menus, even with the new option to put menus in the title bar of the window instead of at the top.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by selectodude »

scanr wrote: post #46

I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

I'll upgrade once Ubuntu somewhat mandates it, which is 14.04.1. It's easier to not worry or care about it.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by gcr »

adwf wrote: post #33
username42 wrote: post #29

I am very happy that Ubuntu GNOME is present. This means no unity for the next 3 years ;-)

At the risk of starting a flamewar, is Gnome 3/Shell really any better? I've never felt quite so unproductive as when I use Gnome nowadays.

Gnome-Shell convinced me to switch away from wmii.

The trick is to use extensions. In particular, the "shellshape" extension for GNOME Shell is a pretty good approximation to sane tiling window managers.

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