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Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by andrey-p »

unicornporn wrote: post #80
jfoster wrote: post #75

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Why would you use Ubuntu if you think Unity is ridiculous? That's like getting a Mac and saying that Apple should drop OS X. It's very clear that Unity isn't for everyone, but I don't understand why people who know it's not for them seem to still want to use Ubuntu.

True dat. If unity does not appeal, there are *buntu options. IMO, Xubuntu is the way forward.

Xubuntu is definitely my favourite of the bunch. I find it's the only *buntu the looks of which I don't find jarring.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by matb33 »

owaislone wrote: post #66
matb33 wrote: post #56

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I'm also eagerly awaiting HiDPI support (I have one of those QHD screens on a 15" display, 3200x1800!). There is apparently some support for it in the GNOME version (I've read it was not perfect though). Don't recall where I read this but it was rumored HiDPI may come to 14.10. Probably no more than a rumor... But at least a version number to look at helps me cope :)

14.04 has very good HiDPI support per monitor unlike Gnome. I've been using 14.04 for months and am loving it on a retina display for the last few weeks. The shell scales perfectly, GTK3 apps scale as well. Firefox has the `layout.css.devPixelsPerPx` setting in about:config that you can change to 2 or 4 to make it scale properly. Chrome doesn't yet support HiDPI screen but setting the default zoom level to 200% does…

Upgrading now just to try this! (Now to get past "symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found" on boot... I should have waited for the weekend to update to a beta release!)

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by monster_group »

scanr wrote: post #46

I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

Ideally I would want to upgrade within a month or so (after major kinks have been worked out) but there is stuff that may not work with the new kernel (I extensively use NoMachine), so I want to make sure if I upgrade I can still use it. I'll first install it in VirtualBox and give it a try. If it works, I'll upgrade. There are disadvantages to sticking with 12.04 for too long. You get stability but you start missing out on the new features of the kernel and other daily use software like LibreOffice. So, I really want to upgrade as soon as possible.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by [deleted] »

hrjet wrote: post #49
cturner wrote: post #45

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alt+tab. Used to work perfectly. Now broken. I've returned to debian stable, which comes with a gnome-2 legacy option that works out of the box just as well as it did a decade ago.

Have you tried the "Simple App Switcher"? It's the good old alt+tab from yester years. You can enable it through Compiz Settings Manager.

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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by johnchristopher »

Mchl wrote: post #50
scanr wrote: post #46

I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

Until 14.04.1 I suppose

IIRC it's Canonical's official stand to suggest users to wait for the first point release. I am sure I read this some days ago, from following a link posted here.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by johnchristopher »

thinkersilver wrote: post #101
rumdz wrote: post #57

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As soon as Elementary OS Isis comes out :).

Currently on 13.10 at home, 12.10 at work desktop, 12.04 on servers. I feel no need yet to upgrade my desktop and my servers. All my previous upgrades had been motivated by better config tools and installers or new software. All these issues have dealt with by earlier releases. I think the distro is no longer the conduit for delivering new software and 14.04 doesn't bring any compelling upgrades outside of Unity twea…

What about the support coming to an end for the desktop versions ?

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by johnchristopher »

adwf wrote: post #33
username42 wrote: post #29

I am very happy that Ubuntu GNOME is present. This means no unity for the next 3 years ;-)

At the risk of starting a flamewar, is Gnome 3/Shell really any better? I've never felt quite so unproductive as when I use Gnome nowadays.

Anecdote: After running some net-install 12.04, 12.10 and 13.10 for a long time with a tiling window manager and recently trying out Unity and Gnome for a few weeks I decided to get back to Debian and Gnome 3.4 + awesome because it runs way smoother on the latest live-CD. And I am in the mood for some long term stability.

My main point of contention is that Unity's dash isn't fast enough for me and I am tired to dig the registry to get rid of the on-line suggestions. But overall I think Unity has a better App/Window management than GNOME (the dock is much more functional for instance). So no 14.04 for me. Except if performances are okay and if the team pulling Ubuntu GNOME show good support.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by dmix »

AhtiK wrote: post #113
scanr wrote: post #46

I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

I am on 13.10 with xmonad but will try to move to 14.04 LTS with Unity. This will happen as soon as I finish my Ansible playbook to get all my current Ubuntu tweaks and dev env setup implemented so I have a repeatable setup and can safely do a fresh install of my desktop as needed with zero manual work. Dotfiles alone didn't cut it and VPS provisioning frameworks like Ansible are great examples how desktops could be…

I've wanted to be able to automate setting up a new Linux desktop on a new laptop for a long time. It's a drag setting up a new box, it takes nearly a month to get everything tweaked right after I switch to a new distro (which is far more often that I should be responsibly doing it).

I've been thinking about setting up an Ansible script, I've never used it before though. How would this work on a new machine? Is it something you run post-OS install? I want to try it out with Arch Linux.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by SDGT »

thinkersilver wrote: post #101
rumdz wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As soon as Elementary OS Isis comes out :).

Currently on 13.10 at home, 12.10 at work desktop, 12.04 on servers. I feel no need yet to upgrade my desktop and my servers. All my previous upgrades had been motivated by better config tools and installers or new software. All these issues have dealt with by earlier releases. I think the distro is no longer the conduit for delivering new software and 14.04 doesn't bring any compelling upgrades outside of Unity twea…

14.04 brings php5.5 and apache 2.4 on an LTS, which is a big reason for many to upgrade.
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