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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Most of the articles and chatter I can find talks about the changes in 14.04 from a desktop perspective. I only run ubuntu on servers and vms. Does anyone know where I can find a good changelog as to what's changed between 12.04 LTS server and 14.04 LTS server?

http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=ubuntu

If you scroll down, there are nice tables that describe various upgrades to default and otherwise important packages.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

I am on 13.10 with xmonad but will try to move to 14.04 LTS with Unity.

This will happen as soon as I finish my Ansible playbook to get all my current Ubuntu tweaks and dev env setup implemented so I have a repeatable setup and can safely do a fresh install of my desktop as needed with zero manual work.

Dotfiles alone didn't cut it and VPS provisioning frameworks like Ansible are great examples how desktops could be built as well :-)

Feel free to track the progress at https://github.com/ahtik/dotdotbox

I'll try to keep it as universal as possible so it can be shared and tweaked in collaboration.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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I'm running 12.04 with I7 Ivy Bridge HD4000 too and have no performance issues. Maybe it's op's hard drive? I'm running the system on an SSD and it's a night and day difference to the rotating equivalents.

8gigs of RAM :) ? in my experience not a single byte over 4GB RAM matters in linux desktop. I have (Ubuntu 13.10 on an old sonny vaio core 2 duo) 4GB and with all the workspace open and a virtual box with 1.5GB RAM allocated to it, i didn't reach 3GB (it stays around 2.7-2.8GB).

Big images/movies. No way around it. Also, it was a fairly cheap upgrade :P

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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At the risk of starting a flamewar, is Gnome 3/Shell really any better? I've never felt quite so unproductive as when I use Gnome nowadays.

Gnome 3 is actually pretty good (once you install a few extensions from extensions.gnome.org.) Much less cluttered than unity (most of the time you just have a single black bar at the top of the screen) and handles workspaces nicely. I never liked gnome 2, though, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I'll second that extensions bit.

The difference between Gnome and Unity is that if there's something you don't like about the former, you can install an extension to fix it. If there isn't an extension, you can write one - at least theoretically.

Anecdotally, that sort of shifts the blame for missing functionality around. It's no longer "my wm is missing x" it's "I haven't written x for my wm yet."

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

For all personal/hobby projects, I can see myself switching within few weeks. For the "serious" bunch, I may be waiting until the middle of 2016, then I'll start migrating.

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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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For me Gnome (2 especially) always felt more natural and productive to use than Unity. Besides, you could easily customize your Gnome to look and behave exactly like Unity but you can't replicate the same with Unity.

Gnome 2 always annoyed me because on every fresh install I had to spend time moving the two separate task bars to be just one. Vertical real estate is at a premium on all monitors, why would I ever want two bars taking up precious space? Never made sense to me.

I love that feature. One bar for the various menus and the other for the list of open windows. I often have several versions of the same application open while working and it is easier for me to find the right window on the open window bar than the alt+tab interface. When I upgrade Ubuntu again, the first thing I will do is install Gnome 2.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Any idea if it will be possible to keep the menu in the title bar from being hidden? It looks like you have to mouse-over to show it, which could be a pain if I'm trying to access it often. I'd like to see where to take my mouse without guessing.

There has been a bug open since early 2011 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/732653) This is one of the most annoying thing of the Unity interface, but they just don't want to fix it because it's a "feature".

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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been using 14.04 for about 2 months now. if you're reliant on open drivers (Radeon, Nouveau), and use HDMI output, understand that Kernels 3.13.x and 3.14.x are going to be miserable for you, and you'll be limited to sub-720p resolutions due to regressions in the drivers. 3D has much improved, but the lack of 1080p makes this a dealbreaker for me right now.
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