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Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by flavor8 »

adwf wrote: post #33
username42 wrote: post #29

I am very happy that Ubuntu GNOME is present. This means no unity for the next 3 years ;-)

At the risk of starting a flamewar, is Gnome 3/Shell really any better? I've never felt quite so unproductive as when I use Gnome nowadays.

Gnome 3 is actually pretty good (once you install a few extensions from extensions.gnome.org.)

Much less cluttered than unity (most of the time you just have a single black bar at the top of the screen) and handles workspaces nicely.

I never liked gnome 2, though, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by owaislone »

daivd wrote: post #38
adwf wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the risk of starting a flamewar, is Gnome 3/Shell really any better? I've never felt quite so unproductive as when I use Gnome nowadays.

I have never quite understood all these desktop emotions. I run Kubuntu, but almost never interact with any desktop features. What is it in your workflow that requires you to interact with Gnome/Unity? (just curious)

Alt-Tab, Super+[1,2,3...0], App launching from the Dash and window spread.

I can't live without the Super+[1,2,3,4...] shortcuts.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by higherpurpose »

scanr wrote: post #46

I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

I'm thinking of trying to switch to it completely. I'll probably still need Windows for some stuff, but I'll try to use Ubuntu as my main OS once this LTS comes out.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by retube »

Things I would like:

1) drop the ridiculous Unity desktop. maybe I am old and out of touch, but that was horrific.

2) Dual boot just works with UEFI/Windows 8.1

3) Supports audio and graphics hardware in common brands like Acer

I have 9 installed on a samsung since 2009 and it's been an absolute pleasure, just worked. Trying to get 12 or 13 onto a modern Acer however... was a nightmare. V disappointing. I still don't have a functioning soundcard and the battery indicator only starts 1 in 10 boots.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by chatman »

retube wrote: post #64

Things I would like: 1) drop the ridiculous Unity desktop. maybe I am old and out of touch, but that was horrific . 2) Dual boot just works with UEFI/Windows 8.1 3) Supports audio and graphics hardware in common brands like Acer I have 9 installed on a samsung since 2009 and it's been an absolute pleasure, just worked. Trying to get 12 or 13 onto a modern Acer however... was a nightmare. V disappointing. I still don'…

GNOME Shell is way better, and now much more stable than before and better than Unity.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by owaislone »

matb33 wrote: post #56
listic wrote: post #43

What improvements in touch device and HiDPI support have made it to 14.04? I'm going to use Ubuntu on Microsoft Surface Pro 2, because even though full convergence for Ubuntu is delayed, I think of all Linux distros it is in the best position to run on such devices. Some enthusiasts have made 13.10 work on Surface Pro 2, surely it can only get better from there? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183946

I'm also eagerly awaiting HiDPI support (I have one of those QHD screens on a 15" display, 3200x1800!). There is apparently some support for it in the GNOME version (I've read it was not perfect though). Don't recall where I read this but it was rumored HiDPI may come to 14.10. Probably no more than a rumor... But at least a version number to look at helps me cope :)

14.04 has very good HiDPI support per monitor unlike Gnome. I've been using 14.04 for months and am loving it on a retina display for the last few weeks.

The shell scales perfectly, GTK3 apps scale as well. Firefox has the `layout.css.devPixelsPerPx` setting in about:config that you can change to 2 or 4 to make it scale properly.

Chrome doesn't yet support HiDPI screen but setting the default zoom level to 200% does the trick.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by owaislone »

retube wrote: post #64

Things I would like: 1) drop the ridiculous Unity desktop. maybe I am old and out of touch, but that was horrific . 2) Dual boot just works with UEFI/Windows 8.1 3) Supports audio and graphics hardware in common brands like Acer I have 9 installed on a samsung since 2009 and it's been an absolute pleasure, just worked. Trying to get 12 or 13 onto a modern Acer however... was a nightmare. V disappointing. I still don'…

Things I would like:

>>> 1) drop the ridiculous Unity desktop. maybe I am old and out of touch, but that was horrific.

1) They continue to not listen to you. :)

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by retube »

chatman wrote: post #65
retube wrote: post #64

Things I would like: 1) drop the ridiculous Unity desktop. maybe I am old and out of touch, but that was horrific . 2) Dual boot just works with UEFI/Windows 8.1 3) Supports audio and graphics hardware in common brands like Acer I have 9 installed on a samsung since 2009 and it's been an absolute pleasure, just worked. Trying to get 12 or 13 onto a modern Acer however... was a nightmare. V disappointing. I still don'…

GNOME Shell is way better, and now much more stable than before and better than Unity.

Ok may give it a wirl. Have xubuntu at the mo which is not bad.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by yulaow »

JanezStupar wrote: post #9

I would use this magnificent milestone to raise my hand and ask... Nvidia, where are my native Linux Optimus drivers?

THAT'S the problem I had since years of asking and bashing on the nvidia support forum.

And that's why, when a mate asks me which laptop to buy to use with linux, I ever suggest not to buy one with a nvidia gpu because even with bumblebee the user experience is shit.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by JanezStupar »

owaislone wrote: post #66
matb33 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also eagerly awaiting HiDPI support (I have one of those QHD screens on a 15" display, 3200x1800!). There is apparently some support for it in the GNOME version (I've read it was not perfect though). Don't recall where I read this but it was rumored HiDPI may come to 14.10. Probably no more than a rumor... But at least a version number to look at helps me cope :)

14.04 has very good HiDPI support per monitor unlike Gnome. I've been using 14.04 for months and am loving it on a retina display for the last few weeks. The shell scales perfectly, GTK3 apps scale as well. Firefox has the `layout.css.devPixelsPerPx` setting in about:config that you can change to 2 or 4 to make it scale properly. Chrome doesn't yet support HiDPI screen but setting the default zoom level to 200% does…

So you are telling me that its finally becoming feasible to have a Retina Macbook with Ubuntu?

Thats awesome news!

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