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Re: Turkish government takes down YouTube too

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All my support goes to the Turkish government for trying to abrupt the Western propaganda and disrupting the influences of American secret national agencies. It is no secret that the protests and revolutions in Syria, Egypt, Tunis and the like were caused by internal fabrications from American soil so they could use the uproar for settling marionettes and proper satellite states instead of having to deal with nations…

Erdoğan, is that you?

Re: Turkish government takes down YouTube too

#33

All my support goes to the Turkish government for trying to abrupt the Western propaganda and disrupting the influences of American secret national agencies. It is no secret that the protests and revolutions in Syria, Egypt, Tunis and the like were caused by internal fabrications from American soil so they could use the uproar for settling marionettes and proper satellite states instead of having to deal with nations…

Personally I think this reasoning is totally bullshit.

People have a brain and can easily discern and analyze the information they get from different sources. Internet, in this sense, is the main "method" to get information for gazzillion different sources, compare them, discuss with other people with other ideas and, in the end, come to a objective conclusion.

Shut it down is not at all a counter-measure... rather I suspect that only will push the people to rage against the oppressors of freedom to get information. That's a suicide measure and also the worst one because people will instantly think "woah, so this guy must have something really bad to hide if he is literally trying to shut down the internet".

Re: Turkish government takes down YouTube too

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After Twitter, this was expected. Just couple of hours ago, leaked audio recordings were uploaded to Youtube which show "Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, National Intelligence Organization (MİT) Undersecretary Hakan Fidan, Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Feridun Sinirlioğlu and Deputy Chief of General Staff Gen. Yaşar Güler are heard discussing possible intervention into Syria and possible reactions from the world"…

Is there any information about when the recordings were made? I ask because, well, after weeks knowing that their conversations were being intercepted, it would be utterly stupid to still discuss sensitive matters on the phone. If on the contrary, they're old recordings, this seems like a strategy by the spies to slowly release damning evidence. Nice.

99% of political activity runs over phone lines. Not using phones would basically shut down the whole government and parliament, throwing a country back to the XIX century, it just can't be done.

What you can do is to change phones and to loudly complain with your counter-espionage and police arms that this stuff shouldn't happen. Except Erdogan has lost most of those constituencies already, which is why these leaks are happening in the first place.

Re: Turkish government takes down YouTube too

#36
post #6

This will just push everyone sharing info to Facebook. Next move bye bye Facebook...or internet. Any way to build a mobile app that rotates servers enough to circumvent this kind of blocking?

I don't think that will happen. Though I didn't think that they would block twitter too :)

Would this picture change your mind?

http://t.co/lCaMDBxZER

Seems they are working their way up the chain of services.

Re: Turkish government takes down YouTube too

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post #27
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, like US and UK populations voted out their chief warmongers pronto, once it came out that the rationale for getting into the Iraq war was fabricated... oh wait

just morbidly curious but what's the date that came out?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Dossier

By late 2003 it was already clear.

Re: Turkish government takes down YouTube too

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty ghastly that people are willing to fabricate rationale for getting into war. I really hope that the Turks dispose of their leaders expediently and forcefully.

Yeah, like US and UK populations voted out their chief warmongers pronto, once it came out that the rationale for getting into the Iraq war was fabricated... oh wait

I'm very sorry but I really don't like that argument. That doesn't make it any less ghastly for others to be like that as well.

The argument you bring seems similar to what people say about the Crimea-Crisis (that 'the west' isn't allowed to complain because of Bosnia). Just because 'the west' interfered illegally in Bosnia, doesn't give Russia a free pass to do so as well.

Re: Turkish government takes down YouTube too

#40

All my support goes to the Turkish government for trying to abrupt the Western propaganda and disrupting the influences of American secret national agencies. It is no secret that the protests and revolutions in Syria, Egypt, Tunis and the like were caused by internal fabrications from American soil so they could use the uproar for settling marionettes and proper satellite states instead of having to deal with nations…

Poe's law?
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