Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning • Hacker News Board

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by shellox1 » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 2:29 PM UTC

As a European I wouldn't go to this messed up country either, especially since he isn't citizen there.

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by CharlesMerriam2 » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 2:35 PM UTC

Remember when the U.S. was the "shining beacon"? Where someone coming into questioning couldn't be held indefinitely as a "material witness"? Or to first have all assets seized and then assigned a terrible attorney because of insolvency? When it would not be a stupid move to submit to questioning on U.S. soil?

Yesh, that's what I thought.

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by samstave » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 2:35 PM UTC

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #17

pmorici wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MtGox has an entity incorporated in Delaware.

Does this "entity" have any assets?

~$400MM in stolen BTC?

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by coldtea » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

CharlesMerriam2 wrote: post #22

Remember when the U.S. was the "shining beacon"? Where someone coming into questioning couldn't be held indefinitely as a "material witness"? Or to first have all assets seized and then assigned a terrible attorney because of insolvency? When it would not be a stupid move to submit to questioning on U.S. soil? Yesh, that's what I thought.

When was that? The slavery era? The prohibition? The seggregation? The McCarthy era? The J.E Hoover era?

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by sk5t » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 2:50 PM UTC

samstave wrote: post #23

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this "entity" have any assets?

~$400MM in stolen BTC?

That is... not an asset.

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by gress » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 2:58 PM UTC

sk5t wrote: post #25

samstave wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

~$400MM in stolen BTC?

That is... not an asset.

It is property.

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by busterarm » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 3:03 PM UTC

jxf wrote: post #14

As a US citizen, if I lived outside the US and was summoned back for "questioning" by adverse parties, there's almost no reason I can imagine going. If that's truly all they want, then there's no reason it needs to be done in person. Depositions can be conducted remotely in many (though not all) jurisdictions.

I wonder how many folks out there agree with you in this case but not with say Julian Assange.

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by notastartup » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 3:05 PM UTC

peculiar he would choose Taiwan of all places, where there is no extradition treaties with the US.

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by wavefunction » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 3:14 PM UTC

wavefunction wrote: post #5

badman_ting wrote: post #4

I wouldn't either. Law enforcement can do what they want here.

With a name like yours, I'd think you'd realize that your statement applies to pretty much every corner of the globe minus a few countries.

Downvoted for stating the truth, I lol at thee...

Re: Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles refuses travel to U.S. for questioning

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Post by logfromblammo » Thu, Mar 27, 2014, 3:26 PM UTC

I believe Admiral Akbar might have some advice for this CEO.

Given the U.S. propensity for arresting foreign nationals for allegedly breaking U.S. laws while completely outside of U.S. territory just as soon as they finally set foot on it, I would politely decline this request as well. The offer to pay 100% of all travel expenses up front is particularly suspicious.

Given what has already occurred, I'd probably also wear nitrile gloves and a dust mask when handling the "first class plane tickets" sent by my former customers.