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Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Gnome is very usable for many of us. I'm tired of seeing the same 'it sucks as a productivity environment' comments. If it's not your preference, you can say that, but Gnome Shell is perfectly fine when it comes to productivity. Quick app switching, searching, app launching, etc... How do these things hurt productivity? I personally dislike KDE, but that's just my taste. Some people love XMonad or XFCE, and some peop…

> I'm a developer and my workflow involves several different tools, Gnome Shell certainly doesn't hurt 'productivity'. I'm also a developer whose workflow involves several different tools. One of those tools is Firefox, and I currently have several hundred tabs open in more than a dozen Firefox windows. I want to be able to instantaneously switch from Emacs to a specific Firefox window. I don't want to switch from Em…

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/294/shellshape/

finally fixed this for me. Awesome-style window switching without Awesome-style window glitching.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#92
post #73

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> I'm a developer and my workflow involves several different tools, Gnome Shell certainly doesn't hurt 'productivity'. I'm also a developer whose workflow involves several different tools. One of those tools is Firefox, and I currently have several hundred tabs open in more than a dozen Firefox windows. I want to be able to instantaneously switch from Emacs to a specific Firefox window. I don't want to switch from Em…

While this may be an issue for you, I doubt having so many Firefox tabs open is all that common. I wouldn't consider this a failure of Gnome. Personally, having that many tabs open would make my head hurt. I'll generally have Vim open with a few open buffers, one browser window, one terminal, and the running program I'm working on...

Actually, you are countering his personal experience with your own. Just because you would find that many open tabs to be problematic doesn't mean he will. He could be like a lot of developers, lots and lots of documentation pages pointing to API info whilst they code :-)

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#93

They talk about better Hi-res (i.e. "retina") display support. Does anyone have a screenshot or video of this working?

Screenshot of HiDPI in action here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/top-12-features-gnome-3-1...

That link is a slightly modified rehash of the release notes. They even use the same screenshots as the release notes!

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#94
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Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself. The fact that they break (and some are let to rotten) after every major release is just to beat a dead body. Just a few weeks ago I tried Gnome 3 again (again!) and it still sucks as a productivity environment. I have better things to do. But as a geek, I'll be checking Gnome 3 again maybe in a year or more. No h…

> Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself. Idunno, FireFox pretty nicely demonstrates that a simple, straightforward platform with an emphasis on extensions can be great. Your use-case doesn't necessarily match my use-case, and letting the users get lost in a sea of config files to customize them has kind of proven to just cause havoc... so why not focu…

Extensions per se are good and fine. The big problem with Gnome extensions is that the Gnome people aren't really treating them as first class citizens and happily break some of them every update. So each time a new version of Gnome comes out you either have to wait a few month while all your extensions get updated or go a few month without all your favorite extensions.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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One of the best news for Gnome is their (updated/clarified) stance on portability, that I found linked in the section for developers[d] linked from the actual release notes[r]: http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2014/02/19/on-portability/ "GNOME is not “Linux-only” and it never should be. People are running GNOME on FreeBSD, OpenBSD and very many other non-GNU/Linux systems. People are running GNOME on GNU/Linux systems th…

KDE apps runs on Windows...

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#96
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gnome is very usable for many of us. I'm tired of seeing the same 'it sucks as a productivity environment' comments. If it's not your preference, you can say that, but Gnome Shell is perfectly fine when it comes to productivity. Quick app switching, searching, app launching, etc... How do these things hurt productivity? I personally dislike KDE, but that's just my taste. Some people love XMonad or XFCE, and some peop…

> I'm a developer and my workflow involves several different tools, Gnome Shell certainly doesn't hurt 'productivity'. I'm also a developer whose workflow involves several different tools. One of those tools is Firefox, and I currently have several hundred tabs open in more than a dozen Firefox windows. I want to be able to instantaneously switch from Emacs to a specific Firefox window. I don't want to switch from Em…

Use workspaces, that is the best way to switch between maximized windows in gnome. Even easier with 'workspaces to dock' extension - just scroll at the right edge of the screen.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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post #95
post #78

One of the best news for Gnome is their (updated/clarified) stance on portability, that I found linked in the section for developers[d] linked from the actual release notes[r]: http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2014/02/19/on-portability/ "GNOME is not “Linux-only” and it never should be. People are running GNOME on FreeBSD, OpenBSD and very many other non-GNU/Linux systems. People are running GNOME on GNU/Linux systems th…

KDE apps runs on Windows...

"run"

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#98
post #37

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I've had a lot of people use Manjaro and not run into issue. Packages are staggered enough that any bugs are usually found and sorted in the ~3 months between releases, but you never get into the Ubuntu 12.04 problem of "oh shit my system is so outdated everything will break if I dist-upgrade". Debian testing is also similar.

The problem with Manjaro package staggering is that it's based on fortune. The Manjaro team as far as I know does not maintain any packages not specific to Manjaro. After using Manjaro on my laptop for the better part of a year and running into lots of stability issues over the last few months, I think that the criticism about "aging packages like wine" is valid. I could deal with significant breakage in Xfce for a w…

The main problem with fedora is that yum sucks so badly. It's absurdly slow and the interface is goofy. What's up with needing a separate tool like repoquery?

Also, why is it necessary to update the kernel twice a week? And why isn't VirtualBox a core package?

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#99
post #73

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While this may be an issue for you, I doubt having so many Firefox tabs open is all that common. I wouldn't consider this a failure of Gnome. Personally, having that many tabs open would make my head hurt. I'll generally have Vim open with a few open buffers, one browser window, one terminal, and the running program I'm working on...

Actually, you are countering his personal experience with your own. Just because you would find that many open tabs to be problematic doesn't mean he will. He could be like a lot of developers, lots and lots of documentation pages pointing to API info whilst they code :-)

> Actually, you are countering his personal experience with your own.

Kind of the point. Just because one developer finds KDE or Gnome or x better doesn't make it a universal fact.

Many of us find Gnome suits us just fine.

> He could be like a lot of developers, lots and lots of documentation pages pointing to API info whilst they code :-)

Most documentation pages are searchable and well organized. No need to keep hundreds of open pages.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#100
If any Gnome developers are reading this - please disregard the bullshit (of course constructive criticism isn't bullshit) - you guys are doing an awesome job, and I wouldn't trade Gnome for any desktop environment out there. Period. Yes, including OSX. I think this will finally have me upgrade my 'buntu.
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