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Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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This is pretty hilarious. Given how small the load can be to automatically contribute hashes to a pool for ___coin, I expect more of these in the future, but smarter. Runs for 5 seconds per minute on ten million devices for six months? That's no joke with some of the hardware out there. It's this close to a victimless crime (that is, unless the victim gets their CPU/GPU fried, as has happened with these nets before).…

It's the disdain for the user. Take their data, use their CPUs, whatever. Users are dumb, they won't notice, and hey, the app's free anyway.

Back in the day, the software on my "Personal Computer" was my friend. It was all wonderful things to have and to learn about.

Looking at my smartphone that's right here on my table, it's shiny, but I've long felt a distinct lack of control over the thing. And now this: Hello - any of you apps mining anything right now in there?

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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This is pretty hilarious. Given how small the load can be to automatically contribute hashes to a pool for ___coin, I expect more of these in the future, but smarter. Runs for 5 seconds per minute on ten million devices for six months? That's no joke with some of the hardware out there. It's this close to a victimless crime (that is, unless the victim gets their CPU/GPU fried, as has happened with these nets before).…

It's the disdain for the user. Take their data, use their CPUs, whatever. Users are dumb, they won't notice, and hey, the app's free anyway. Back in the day, the software on my "Personal Computer" was my friend. It was all wonderful things to have and to learn about. Looking at my smartphone that's right here on my table, it's shiny, but I've long felt a distinct lack of control over the thing. And now this: Hello -…

I Just use the factory apps and have nothing else installed, this way no one mines anything out of me.

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the disdain for the user. Take their data, use their CPUs, whatever. Users are dumb, they won't notice, and hey, the app's free anyway. Back in the day, the software on my "Personal Computer" was my friend. It was all wonderful things to have and to learn about. Looking at my smartphone that's right here on my table, it's shiny, but I've long felt a distinct lack of control over the thing. And now this: Hello -…

I Just use the factory apps and have nothing else installed, this way no one mines anything out of me.

Except Google mining all your data (if you use Android)

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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These schemes mostly just convert electricity to cryptocurrency. The electricity is almost always more expensive than the value, but the app authors aren't paying the bill. If you're plugging in your 5W charger for less than half the day, the limit is maybe $2/year/user, assuming you can get away with it for a year...

$2 is way too high. I would say a cent per week tops.

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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I've been working on an idea similar to this for a few months. Instead of limiting this to crypto currency mining (a fair application, FWIW), why not approach this with the idea that people plugging in their phones every night could easily constitute the largest distributed supercomputer ever built? Everyone has the same nightly ritual: Wake up, use phone/tablet/device, plug in at night. Once it's plugged in, your ph…

I thought of this as well, but more along the lines of protein folding. I think finding a cure for one of those diseases would be more than enough for most people to justify the power consumption.

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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I wonder if one could create a pyramid scheme app out of this? An invite only one. 1st guy - 100% mining load & all profit. 2nd and 3rd guy split the mining load and 99.99% of the profit. and so on...

wait... forget invite only - anyone could download. Your rank would depend upon how early you became a member and how often you leave the app running. The mining load would increase/decrease depending upon how many users are running the app at the time. Also, place ads on the app.

http://wowsuchponzi.com/

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the disdain for the user. Take their data, use their CPUs, whatever. Users are dumb, they won't notice, and hey, the app's free anyway. Back in the day, the software on my "Personal Computer" was my friend. It was all wonderful things to have and to learn about. Looking at my smartphone that's right here on my table, it's shiny, but I've long felt a distinct lack of control over the thing. And now this: Hello -…

I Just use the factory apps and have nothing else installed, this way no one mines anything out of me.

by which you also miss out on most of the things that make a smartphone worth buying in the first place...

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the disdain for the user. Take their data, use their CPUs, whatever. Users are dumb, they won't notice, and hey, the app's free anyway. Back in the day, the software on my "Personal Computer" was my friend. It was all wonderful things to have and to learn about. Looking at my smartphone that's right here on my table, it's shiny, but I've long felt a distinct lack of control over the thing. And now this: Hello -…

I Just use the factory apps and have nothing else installed, this way no one mines anything out of me.

by which you also miss out on most of the things that make a smartphone worth buying in the first place...

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I Just use the factory apps and have nothing else installed, this way no one mines anything out of me.

by which you also miss out on most of the things that make a smartphone worth buying in the first place...

That depends heavily on the user. I love my smartphone (now have a Note 3, last phone was a Note) but large-screen portable web browsing and built-in GPS/Navigation are the draw for me, not hundreds of apps. I have few installed.

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I Just use the factory apps and have nothing else installed, this way no one mines anything out of me.

Except Google mining all your data (if you use Android)

Well then I guess Apple knows I come here often!
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