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Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Gnome is very usable for many of us. I'm tired of seeing the same 'it sucks as a productivity environment' comments. If it's not your preference, you can say that, but Gnome Shell is perfectly fine when it comes to productivity. Quick app switching, searching, app launching, etc... How do these things hurt productivity? I personally dislike KDE, but that's just my taste. Some people love XMonad or XFCE, and some peop…

After having switched to KDE from Gnome, I can say Gnome Shell does hurt productivity. One example would be, Nautilus can't be split into two panes. When I have to move a bunch of files from one folder to another, on Gnome it would require right-click copy and then open the folder and then right-click-paste. Whereas on KDE, it merely means drag and drop. It will even ask you, if you want to move or copy, that could c…

And you could say that file managers hurt productivity because they need you to focus on the file, after finding the specific one you were going to move. And then you have to wait for it to ask and focus your view on the option you were to choose, when you had the option to go with mv or cp in the first place and you don't have to navigate to the folder you need to copy the files either.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#83
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gnome is very usable for many of us. I'm tired of seeing the same 'it sucks as a productivity environment' comments. If it's not your preference, you can say that, but Gnome Shell is perfectly fine when it comes to productivity. Quick app switching, searching, app launching, etc... How do these things hurt productivity? I personally dislike KDE, but that's just my taste. Some people love XMonad or XFCE, and some peop…

After having switched to KDE from Gnome, I can say Gnome Shell does hurt productivity. One example would be, Nautilus can't be split into two panes. When I have to move a bunch of files from one folder to another, on Gnome it would require right-click copy and then open the folder and then right-click-paste. Whereas on KDE, it merely means drag and drop. It will even ask you, if you want to move or copy, that could c…

For moving and copying files from one directory to another, it's arguable that Gnome's select files, right-click and select "Move To", or "Copy To" from the context menu and select the destination from the resulting dialog is as efficient as the split-pane way.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#84

Hey what do you know – I find myself not caring very much. After using Gnome 2 for a long while as my main work desktop and actually really trying to use Gnome 3 for a while. Now I'm not even curious to know what's in the new release.

I understand the initial shock as a long-time user of gnome as my primary desktop. (since gnome 1) I was like you but now have to admit, since 3.8, I am very happy with all the changes. I prefer its look and feel over everything else these days.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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When GNOME 3 came out, I was upset and hated it. Then I moved on to running i3 without a DE and I don't think I am using a DE again. It's surprising how little features of a DE I need. Right now, I have nothing that requires a DE.

The only thing I miss is power management and buttons. I get tired of futzing around to get my brightness buttons to work, and then a newer kernel changes the interfaces again.

I must admit I am not doing power management of any sorts. For brightness, I use xbacklight and it works pretty well.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#86
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gnome is very usable for many of us. I'm tired of seeing the same 'it sucks as a productivity environment' comments. If it's not your preference, you can say that, but Gnome Shell is perfectly fine when it comes to productivity. Quick app switching, searching, app launching, etc... How do these things hurt productivity? I personally dislike KDE, but that's just my taste. Some people love XMonad or XFCE, and some peop…

> I'm a developer and my workflow involves several different tools, Gnome Shell certainly doesn't hurt 'productivity'. I'm also a developer whose workflow involves several different tools. One of those tools is Firefox, and I currently have several hundred tabs open in more than a dozen Firefox windows. I want to be able to instantaneously switch from Emacs to a specific Firefox window. I don't want to switch from Em…

+1 I have the same issue with alt+tab and have stopped using Gnome shell.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#88
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I think GNOME3 is breaking *nix philosophy: do one thing and do it well; to be highly configurable. You have freedom to use compiz in GNOME2, but not in 3. There are a lot of good GTK2 themes but gitg and d-feet have hard-coded styles so only default GNOME3 theme will look sane. Super+p is somewhat hard-coded and you cannot customize it ... and there are more annoying issues. I am happy that mate-desktop is still ali…

everything is breaking *nix philosophy. systemd is the new hotness and it does everything. That philosophy is nearly dead, insofar as it ever lived.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#89

There are many annoyances in these new unfinished desktops, but one I miss the most was the Gnome2 clock applet. A must if you have people in other timezones: http://i.stack.imgur.com/1Ftcd.png Note the map with day/night marked. Allows one at a glance to figure out if it is a reasonable time to make contact. I've managed to get a version almost as good on a Saucy laptop, but now Locations doesn't stay open by defaul…

Gnome used to have lots of things like that that were just really wonderful touches.

The calendar integration is still there, at least- if only I could get EDS to work with exchange...

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

#90
post #29

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I love Gnome, and it just keeps improving. It's got some annoying issues, such as when the designers decide to willy-nilly drop important features inbetween releases (like the Ethernet connection indicator, and the backtracking in gparted), but it's been great otherwise. A genuinely good desktop manager for linux.

No change they made ever had consequences as dire as when they removed transparency from GNOME Terminal. Never forget.

It's sad, but I've switched to xterm
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