Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: What are the signs that you are a Good, Better, or Best programmer?

news.ycombinator.com

1–6 of 6 posts

Ask HN: What are the signs that you are a Good, Better, or Best programmer?

#1
With all due respect to the earlier post, "Signs that you're a bad programmer", I thought I'd add a post of my own about how to tell if you're a Good, Better, or Best programmer...

    Good: You help your users write their specs.
  Better: You write what you anticipate your users want.
    Best: You users figure out what they want after seeing your prototype.

    Good: When someone asks you what a variable means, you answer quickly.
  Better: No one asks you what your variables mean.
    Best: Others compliment your variable naming.

    Good: When questions arise, you look at your code and answer them.
  Better: When questions arise, you answer them without looking at your code.
    Best: Questions don't arise.

    Good: You are deft at using your favorite IDE.
  Better: You use an IDE with the colors turned off.
    Best: You don't use an IDE.

    Good: You are an expert at debugging.
  Better: Your error conditions anticipate problems before you need a debugger.
    Best: What's a debugger?

    Good: There are no bugs.
  Better: There are no bugs and it runs fast.
    Best: It generates code with no bugs that runs fast.

    Good: Common logic is consolidated into common code.
  Better: Common code is consolidated into parameter-driven common code.
    Best: All code is parameter-driven common logic.

    Good: Your code is easily copied and changed by others.
  Better: Your code is easily used by others through your API.
    Best: Others read your code in order to learn how to do it.

    Good: The next programmer can easily debug any run time errors.
  Better: There are no run time errors.
    Best: Your program fixes itself when it encounters run time errors.

    Good: Your app has many good data base access routines.
  Better: Your app has several good data base access routines.
    Best: Your app has one good data base access routine.

    Good: You can easily add special processing logic at any point.
  Better: You have hooks to easily access any special processing logic.
    Best: Your built in Boolean logic already handles any special processing logic.

    Good: Your code runs so well you have time to lurk at Hacker News.
  Better: Your code runs so well you have time to participate at Hacker News.
    Best: You hang out at Hacker News while your code generators crank away.

Re: Ask HN: What are the signs that you are a Good, Better, or Best programmer?

#2
Based on a test I ran on a number of people there is a linear correlation between IQ and Programming skills!

IQ100->belowGood IQ110->Good IQ120->Better >IQ120->Best

You raise some very good points though. I am not sure about the 'no bugs' though.

Re: Ask HN: What are the signs that you are a Good, Better, or Best programmer?

#4
"Best: What's a debugger?"

Run for your life.

Glad to see that the examples touched on the fact the being a good programmer has as much to do with interacting with people as it does code. Whether you're chained to a desk in the basement or working one on one with clients (or both?), I think the key is the programmer's flexibility.

The ability to think quickly and adapt smartly to sudden bugs/conflicts/requests can really help sort out the code monkeys from the wizards.

The 'Best' category kind of irks me; programming is an ongoing learning process. Always try to be a better programmer, never try to 'the best'.

Re: Ask HN: What are the signs that you are a Good, Better, or Best programmer?

#5

"Best: What's a debugger?" Run for your life. Glad to see that the examples touched on the fact the being a good programmer has as much to do with interacting with people as it does code. Whether you're chained to a desk in the basement or working one on one with clients (or both?), I think the key is the programmer's flexibility. The ability to think quickly and adapt smartly to sudden bugs/conflicts/requests can re…

Did you actually read his "Best" descriptions? Most of them are literally impossible for a real programmer to actually achieve - most are sort of transcendental goals to keep working toward.

Re: Ask HN: What are the signs that you are a Good, Better, or Best programmer?

#6
post #2

Based on a test I ran on a number of people there is a linear correlation between IQ and Programming skills! IQ100->belowGood IQ110->Good IQ120->Better >IQ120->Best You raise some very good points though. I am not sure about the 'no bugs' though.

It's a LOT more than IQ; IQ is more a limiting factor, without enough intelligence you cannot reach a particular level. You also need LOTS of specific knowledge and LOTS of practice; I'm 156 but nowhere near a good programmer (yet).