Nothing should ever be announced or "effective" April 1.
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Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014
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Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014
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I actually use DigitalOcean as a cheap download server for my product. $5 gets you 1TB, then its $0.02/GB
How much bandwidth are you using? I'd wonder if they throttle you at some point. I'm sure they're not expecting people to use that whole TB.
I use multiple instances (20-40) of 1 TB bandwidth pretty regularly with no throttling as of yet.
Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
There most certainly are other cloud providers out there, but it would help if you defined what you are looking for instead of conflating issues. Webhostingtalk is a good resource for the curious.
>There most certainly are other cloud providers out there With similar pricing to amazon. Are you not reading any of the replies you've gotten?
Yes, I've read them and responded accordingly. Perhaps you could do the same.
There are cloud providers with cheaper prices than Amazon. Please feel free to read up on the alternatives.
The whole point of this exchange has been to point out that wholesale prices are far less than what Amazon charges. Some cloud providers are more prone to follow the wholesale cost level and others are not.
If you want to discuss alternatives to Amazon then first you have to define what cloud features you want/need.
Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014
#94I hope these AWS pricing changes are not an early April Fool's joke. The S3 pricing in particular will be cheaper than the current pricing for the > 5000 TB tier.
Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014
#95It would be interesting to go back through the Everpix post mortem docs[1] and see if a big price swing like this could have put them in the black (or close to it). [1] https://github.com/everpix/Everpix-Intelligence
I had the same thought. Their last Amazon bill was $35k. I don't think saving $10-20k/month would have made a significant difference. They had many freemium users, and were not adding customers at a sufficiently high growth rate over the life of the company. They were trying to raise $5m.
The importance of this depends on unit economics. For businesses with historically tight margins (e.g. retail), small swings in input prices (labor, cost of goods) can make or break profitability.
Whereas software, if you're doing it right, should have much higher margins.
Sidenote: I'd be very curious to know what the "typical SaaS business" has as its gross margin, factoring in all sales against "cost of goods": servers, bandwidth, operations, etc.
Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014
#96Waiting for Azure response, should be any minute now i suppose.
Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014
#97Storage is cheap, but data transfer out is still $0.12/GB, over 10x more expensive than other options.
On the other hand, S3 EC2 transfer is free of bandwidth costs (there are still per-request costs though).
Within the same region, yes. Not in the same region, then whatever the inter-region bandwidth costs are.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
While not the best solution, you can call Amazon, speak to someone to have your "surprise" bill mitigated. This is 1st hand information from a AWS Rep I once dated.
That is so wrong it's not funny. Call? Isn't our use of computers predicated on the notion that we don't want to do manual labor?
Well, you can do a ticket, too.
Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014
#99Given costs of storage and data center operations, what's the lowest, commoditization-bound on standard Amazon S3 prices? Now they're reducing to a narrow $27.50-30.00/TB-month, from the current $43-85/TB-month. I've seen Internet Archive and Backblaze estimates that indicate $60-100/TB-storage installation and $7/TB-year in power. If drives last 5 years, we could expect a commodity cloud-storage price around $20/TB-…
a while back i wondered about the same thing ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2787770 ). It did occur later to me that S3/Google Cloud Storage and Archive/Backblaze are really not the same thing. S3/GCS is FAST.
Backblaze, for example, has two gigabit ethernet ports for their new 180TB pod. That means, even assuming no overhead, copying 1 POD to another will take ~9 days! Even were they to add additional/faster ports/interconnects, the 45 drives in a POD are still sitting on a PCIe 2.0 8x, thus with a theoretical throughput of 4GB/s, thats still half a day.
Now, I do not know how many drives Amazon/Google load into their S3/GCS servers, but my (dayjob) live storage servers rarely have more than 4 - 8 drives each. Even if we assume 8, thats a 5-6 fold increase in theoretical throughput - and THAT is why S3/GCS will never be in the same pricing zone as Backblaze.
S3/GCS, even Backupsy, DO, etc are all "live" storage solutions, and seems most are converging to ~3 cents/GB-month. Backblaze is "archival" storage, and will (probably) continue to be cheaper by a factor of 5-10 (or its won't be worth the hassle).
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This was my take-away from the Google Cloud pricing changes yesterday. By reducing CPU costs, my bandwidth just becomes even more the dominant cost, so further reductions help me less and less. AWS users will end up with the same problem in time. I wonder why the bandwidth costs are so subborn, does the cost price per traffic unit really never come down, or is someone (some people) in the infrastructure layer(s) scre…
At the scale large providers operate at, they don't pay per GB, they pay at the 95th percentile for Gb/10Gb links. It's the same way you pay a fixed hourly rate (in most cases) for your retail electricity, and your provider is paying wholesale spot market rates that can fluctuate in ~5 minute windows. TL;DR You're paying for consistency and abstraction away from the underlying IP transport costs.
Transit costs less than $1/Mbps/month, which works out to only a few cents/GB. It still looks like pretty high markup.