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Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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So it is pronounced "ga-nome" and not "nome"? Interesting. It looks good too, I like the way modals open from a thin line to its full size.

Congratulations for making out that much from the voice-over on the video. I could barely understand a word she was saying. Sounded like a cat on helium being strangled.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Looks great. I've been extremely happy with Gnome UI after switching from OSX. It's fun being able to play with a desktop that is constantly improving on a rolling-release platforms like Arch Linux, where new updates stream in constantly. Instead of having to wait a year or more for big waterfall releases like OSX (Mavericks was also pretty disappointing). My only complaint is how every gnome upgrade the majority of…

Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself. The fact that they break (and some are let to rotten) after every major release is just to beat a dead body. Just a few weeks ago I tried Gnome 3 again (again!) and it still sucks as a productivity environment. I have better things to do. But as a geek, I'll be checking Gnome 3 again maybe in a year or more. No h…

Barely usable? I'd hardly call it that. I find it very usable. I don't quite like the alt+tab default functionality, but barely usable is really a stretch. I find it a very productive environment with no extensions whatsoever.

That said, I do use a few extensions, and I'm exploring writing ones as well. The fact that extensions are written in javascript is really nice (or awful, depending on how you feel about javascript). The built in debugger/console looking glass (type ALT+F2, then lg, the press enter) is very helpful, and window identification/selection is very simple. Being able to extend the environment in a relatively easy way with a scripting language is a big win in my book

ymmv, but I find it to be a nice environment. I'm not 100% satisfied, but I'm far more satisfied with it than, say, OSX or Windows, and slightly more satisfied with it than Unity or KDE.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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I still don't understand why they insist on removing window-based task management when they continue to use window-based applications and workflows, so I will continue to complain about this

I don't think they're trying to do that at all. In fact, with the activities overview, I think GNOME is the best out of any desktop at managing and manipulating windows. I use a tiling window manager myself, but I agree with (what I think is) GNOME's approach: minimize/restore is not a good way to manage windows.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused, what's window based task management?

Window-based task management is "Windows", App-based task management is "Metro". We spent the last 25 years of computer history teaching both the users and the computers how to multitask, only for the most recent user designers to try their damnedest to take it away from us.

> App-based task management is "Metro".

App-based task management is also pre-CS5 Photoshop on OSX. Programs which have multiple windows per document need those windows brought to the front together.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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post #4

So these updates are only available for Ubuntu 14.04 and other flavors? I'm unable to upgrade from 3.10 to 3.12

I think these updates are available for everyone, I just don't think ubuntu is going to do it for you until a later release.

Not just Ubuntu; it's not even close to being packaged for debian-testing yet. (http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.12-status.html)

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Looks great. I've been extremely happy with Gnome UI after switching from OSX. It's fun being able to play with a desktop that is constantly improving on a rolling-release platforms like Arch Linux, where new updates stream in constantly. Instead of having to wait a year or more for big waterfall releases like OSX (Mavericks was also pretty disappointing). My only complaint is how every gnome upgrade the majority of…

Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself. The fact that they break (and some are let to rotten) after every major release is just to beat a dead body. Just a few weeks ago I tried Gnome 3 again (again!) and it still sucks as a productivity environment. I have better things to do. But as a geek, I'll be checking Gnome 3 again maybe in a year or more. No h…

If we all posted a few minutes worth of screencam video showing the pain points in typical tasks, without compromising confidentiality, it might help developers understand the issues.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=531271#p531271

Does anyone have any better references to usability research on Gnome Shell?

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Looks great. I've been extremely happy with Gnome UI after switching from OSX. It's fun being able to play with a desktop that is constantly improving on a rolling-release platforms like Arch Linux, where new updates stream in constantly. Instead of having to wait a year or more for big waterfall releases like OSX (Mavericks was also pretty disappointing). My only complaint is how every gnome upgrade the majority of…

If you need a churning time-consuming stream of updates, the software wasn't written well.

I'm looking for an alternative to OS X, but I want a stable OS that I can use to get work done. If anything, Apple has been shipping too much broken software, too often. The last thing I want to do is switch to a platform that actually embraces pushing out a constant stream of poorly thought out features and a slew of regressions.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I love Gnome, and it just keeps improving. It's got some annoying issues, such as when the designers decide to willy-nilly drop important features inbetween releases (like the Ethernet connection indicator, and the backtracking in gparted), but it's been great otherwise. A genuinely good desktop manager for linux.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Looks great. I've been extremely happy with Gnome UI after switching from OSX. It's fun being able to play with a desktop that is constantly improving on a rolling-release platforms like Arch Linux, where new updates stream in constantly. Instead of having to wait a year or more for big waterfall releases like OSX (Mavericks was also pretty disappointing). My only complaint is how every gnome upgrade the majority of…

Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself. The fact that they break (and some are let to rotten) after every major release is just to beat a dead body. Just a few weeks ago I tried Gnome 3 again (again!) and it still sucks as a productivity environment. I have better things to do. But as a geek, I'll be checking Gnome 3 again maybe in a year or more. No h…

Gnome is very usable for many of us. I'm tired of seeing the same 'it sucks as a productivity environment' comments.

If it's not your preference, you can say that, but Gnome Shell is perfectly fine when it comes to productivity. Quick app switching, searching, app launching, etc... How do these things hurt productivity?

I personally dislike KDE, but that's just my taste. Some people love XMonad or XFCE, and some people even like Unity.

Dunno, I'm a developer and my workflow involves several different tools, Gnome Shell certainly doesn't hurt 'productivity'.

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