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Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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post #7

This must be an incredible benefit to companies like Imgur or Dropbox where a significant portion of their costs must be S3 storage.

I wonder if any company using that much S3 space wouldn't have already negotiated a better deal, possibly beating these prices.

Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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post #10

Storage is cheap, but data transfer out is still $0.12/GB, over 10x more expensive than other options.

Which is why you should be relying heavily on a caching layer outside of AWS. You're not serving objects directly from S3, are you? A big no-no if you care about latency at all (S3 from time to time will take upwards of ~500ms to serve HTTP GET requests).

EDIT: Example: We use Akamai as our caching layer, as their bandwidth costs are much less than Cloudfront (their analytics are better as well, and they don't charge for invalidations like Cloudfront does). We use S3 as the origin as its a lower cost per GB than Akamai's NetStorage, and the S3 API is superior to work with compared to the interfaces exposed by NetStorage (scp/ftp/rsync).

Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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post #10

Storage is cheap, but data transfer out is still $0.12/GB, over 10x more expensive than other options.

What "other options"? You mean sketchy "free 9000 exabytes/month of bandwidth" low end hosting places like hetzner? Those are not alternatives to AWS or azure or google cloud. And those bandwidth costs do not reflect reality, they assume most people use almost none of that bandwidth. The bandwidth still costs the same, just the big users are getting the small users to pay for their bandwidth costs.

Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

#25
post #7

This must be an incredible benefit to companies like Imgur or Dropbox where a significant portion of their costs must be S3 storage.

It must, but I assume once you get to a certain level of usage then an account manager / AWS gets you a slightly better than the publicly published deal. Is that the case?

Also, I wonder if EC2 is up for a price tweak soon too?

EDIT: Ah - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7475284

Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

#26
post #4

Key quote: "We are lowering S3 storage prices by 36% to 65%, effective April 1st, 2014." http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/

Unless you're storing massive amounts of data, no point in using Glacier now, as it's still $0.01/GB (vs $0.03/GB for standard durability). And wow. Hell of a price drop.

I don't think a few TB counts as "massive", and that still saves you over a grand a year. Why move backups to a 3x more expensive service, what's the upside?

Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

#27
Given costs of storage and data center operations, what's the lowest, commoditization-bound on standard Amazon S3 prices? Now they're reducing to a narrow $27.50-30.00/TB-month, from the current $43-85/TB-month.

I've seen Internet Archive and Backblaze estimates that indicate $60-100/TB-storage installation and $7/TB-year in power. If drives last 5 years, we could expect a commodity cloud-storage price around $20/TB-year? One order of magnitude to go.

Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

#28
post #7

This must be an incredible benefit to companies like Imgur or Dropbox where a significant portion of their costs must be S3 storage.

It must, but I assume once you get to a certain level of usage then an account manager / AWS gets you a slightly better than the publicly published deal. Is that the case? Also, I wonder if EC2 is up for a price tweak soon too? EDIT: Ah - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7475284

Yes, the big users have negotiated lower prices that aren't listed on the site (confirmed to me by a very large S3 user).

Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

#29

My concern is what it always been for AWS, no first party support for limiting my bill. The best effort from AWS is just an email notification when they "think" my bill is over a limit. If I can't limit my risk to a surprise bill of thousands of dollars after missing a midnight email, I still can't use their service at any usage based price other than free.

This is very hard for them to do.

For example, what if you have set up a bunch of auto-scaling instances to handle heavy load. During the middle of the night, your application suddenly goes viral in Indonesia or Brazil or some other large country in a different timezone from yours.

Your bill goes over its threshold - what does Amazon do? Do they terminate some of your instances (potentially losing production data!)?

The problem is that the exact times that "intelligent" bill-limiting features are likely to be used are the exact instances in which they could have absolutely disastrous impact if they make a mistake[0]

I haven't experienced this myself, but I've heard Amazon is actually rather lenient when it comes to waiving fees for clear mistakes (accidentally provisioning an expensive instance that you didn't mean to) - their customer support is supposed to be very good, though I have not had to use this myself.

[0] By "mistake", I mean that they are following your instructions correctly, but your instructions happen to be incorrect for handling this situation.

Re: Amazon S3 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

#30
post #9

Much expected after the GDrive prices got slashed. Currently I am only using S3 for hosting PDF or other big size files which are downloadable by the public, since the bandwidth is pay-as-go. However for regular storage, Dropbox/GDrive are still the primary choice, due to the fact, the data sync across devices, speaking of sync, what is holding Amazon back from a similar app for S3?

There is Amazon Cloud Drive which is the consumer focused storage which is similar to Dropbox and Google Drive. It has a sync app. The prices for Cloud Drive haven't been cut; they are still $0.04/GB/mo.
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