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The fact that Brendan hasn't publicly changed his position or donated $1000+ to an LGBT organization (to offset his Prop 8 donation) means that this must be a deeply held belief of his. I trust Mozilla will keep him on a short leash, but it's still troubling.
What's wrong with it being a deeply-held belief? Hell, for that matter, what exactly is this position everyone keeps ascribing to him? Other than the donation, what do we know?
That is awesome, actions speak louder than words.
The fact that Brendan hasn't publicly changed his position or donated $1000+ to an LGBT organization (to offset his Prop 8 donation) means that this must be a deeply held belief of his. I trust Mozilla will keep him on a short leash, but it's still troubling.
What's wrong with it being a deeply-held belief? Hell, for that matter, what exactly is this position everyone keeps ascribing to him? Other than the donation, what do we know?
That he doesn't think gay people should have the same rights as straight people? Was this a trick question?
> What's wrong with it being a deeply-held belief?
That we are putting it to a vote at all will be a point of historical embarrassment in the not so distant future. Is this not clear?
I don't understand the incredulity; it's all rather plain.
The fact that Brendan hasn't publicly changed his position or donated $1000+ to an LGBT organization (to offset his Prop 8 donation) means that this must be a deeply held belief of his. I trust Mozilla will keep him on a short leash, but it's still troubling.
What's wrong with it being a deeply-held belief? Hell, for that matter, what exactly is this position everyone keeps ascribing to him? Other than the donation, what do we know?
Wait, what? Alright, let's start from the beginning.
"Hell, for that matter, what exactly is this position everyone keeps ascribing to him?"
It may seem like we can't really tell, because he never really openly commented on this, but what we do know is this:
* he donated $1,000 of his own money to support Proposition 8
* the full text of Proposition 8 (according to Wikipedia):
Section I. Title
This measure shall be known and may be cited as the "California Marriage Protection Act." Section 2. Article I. Section 7.5 is added to the California Constitution, to read:
Sec. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.
Is it really hard to figure out that Brendan Eich is a man who would pay $1,000 so that two consenting people in love can not marry if they are of the same sex?
I am not a gay person myself and I think it's safe to assume you are neither. And you might have read http://www.teamrarebit.com/blog/2014/03/24/goodbye_firefox_m... by now. But I really recommend doing a little bit of a research on the topics of gay marriage and LGBTs to see what exactly is wrong with his belief that LGBT people don't deserve basic human and civil rights.
Note: I was only responding to the quoted text. It's a whole another issue whether he should resign as a CEO of an organization that prides itself for being open and inclusive (or at least issue an apology and/or a statement of his changed mind on this issue). Also another question is whether it is the right solution to boycott a whole company which I am sure is full of people who do not agree with the new CEO's belief.
You could say that the private views of Chick-Fil-A's owner do not impact how the company does business, but I think it would be naive to say that it doesn't have some effect, both on the employees, and on people external to the company.
Or to give a non-political example, if your CEO believes the best way to motivate people is to scream insults at them, tell them their work sucks, or otherwise keep them in a state of fear, then, even if it isn't official company policy to do so, that management 'culture' will percolate down to middle level managers, so that suddenly you have a whole hierarchy of aggressive, alpha-male scream-bags who think they're the next Steve Jobs or Bill Gates.
Your opinion whether this outrage is justified or not doesn't matter. It is there and Mozilla should deal with it.
It about as strong a stance as saying "we provide clean toilets".
Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's wrong with it being a deeply-held belief? Hell, for that matter, what exactly is this position everyone keeps ascribing to him? Other than the donation, what do we know?
"What's wrong with it being a deeply-held belief?" Wait, what? Alright, let's start from the beginning. "Hell, for that matter, what exactly is this position everyone keeps ascribing to him?" It may seem like we can't really tell, because he never really openly commented on this, but what we do know is this: * he donated $1,000 of his own money to support Proposition 8 * the full text of Proposition 8 (according to W…
Why would either of those options happen? Since when is a person not entitled to his own opinions and beliefs? Him being the CEO has nothing to do with the stand on diversity of the organization itself, that was the whole point of Mozilla's statement. He is not firing his gay employees or enforcing his agenda upon the organization because that has nothing to do with his current position at Mozilla. In fact, the money he spent was his own, not Mozilla's. One can do whatever the fuck one wants with his own money as long as it's legal.
Making his stance against gay marriage public was probably not a good idea from a business standpoint, but there's absolutely nothing from that that should taint Mozilla's image.