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Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by rythie »

mixmax wrote: post #24
nick-dap wrote: post #18

"these outages are much more serious. 45 million people worldwide now rely on Twitter as a communication platform" Riiiight. Rely is a very strong word. How will we do business?! How will we talk to our friends and relatives?! Let's face it, Twitter solved a problem that never existed.

That's how new markets are born. Back in the day e-mail solved a problem that didn't exist too.

E-mail predates even the internet, it was obviously clear before people had terminals let alone computers on their desks that we needed means of electronic communication.

From Wikipedia: "E-mail predates the inception of the Internet, and was in fact a crucial tool in creating the Internet.

MIT first demonstrated the Compatible Time-Sharing System (CTSS) in 1961.[17] It allowed multiple users to log into the IBM 7094[18] from remote dial-up terminals, and to store files online on disk. This new ability encouraged users to share information in new ways. E-mail started in 1965 as a way for multiple users of a time-sharing mainframe computer to communicate. Although the exact history is murky, among the first systems to have such a facility were SDC's Q32 and MIT's CTSS."

Unless your saying that E-mail wasn't solving a problem since we had the Electric telegraph so we didn't need anything better? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_telegraph

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by rimantas »

Elepsis wrote: post #45
nick-dap wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was no way to transfer a document instantly and without using paper. Faxes were slow and used paper. There was a clear business need. So I don't think thats a fair comparison. Then again I don't remember those days from personal experiences, just making an assumption. From a different perspective. If it was serving a need people would be willing to pay for it.

When email was first becoming popular, most people didn't know they wanted to transfer a document without using paper. And in fact when they GOT a document in an email, much of the time they wound up printing it out. But even then your basic argument is flawed, because it assumes that the point of email is attachments. The original technology email replaced was not the fax machine but the letter. Likewise, Twitter is…

No, the point of email is not attachements or being paperless. It is the speed.

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by voom »

ch101 wrote: post #65
voom wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was banned for using the word "twat" (modded down mercilessly even after I posted the full definition because I wasn't sufficiently humble about it). Look up the account, sharkfish. http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=sharkfish What is wrong with you people. Can't you see this poster is ruining the forum!?!?

I up-modded you

You're gonna get punished for that. Someone is upset :)

You're already down to zero.

I have proven this site is full of um...let's not say. lol.

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by mtw »

poutine wrote: post #60
mtw wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's the idea behind identi.ca

I was thinking XMPP/Google Wave. Identi.ca will never win over the Twitter audience, something different may.

I thought the point of hacker news was to give an opportunity to small teams and startups, not just because it comes from google

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by poutine »

mtw wrote: post #74
poutine wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking XMPP/Google Wave. Identi.ca will never win over the Twitter audience, something different may.

I thought the point of hacker news was to give an opportunity to small teams and startups, not just because it comes from google

I'm not giving any opportunity to anyone. The market will do what it does.

As a technology solution, XMPP is far better than a polling based Twitter/Identi.ca client.

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by poutine »

mtw wrote: post #74
poutine wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking XMPP/Google Wave. Identi.ca will never win over the Twitter audience, something different may.

I thought the point of hacker news was to give an opportunity to small teams and startups, not just because it comes from google

I'm not giving any opportunity to anyone. The market will do what it does.

As a technology solution, XMPP is far better than a polling based Twitter/Identi.ca client.

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