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Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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Slide 8: no one cares. Slide 9: not interesting. Slide 10: 30k monthly uniques. What happened there? That is all I really care about.

:) What happened was that we removed the crap that was built before. Only 2 things could not be removed: products and people, so the homepage became a precursor to what it is today: a minimalist grid of products posted by users.

I then spent $20 a day on Facebook ads. The goal was simply to get a small stream of people to check out the website and to see if they would use it. I didn't think I could actually grow a community by spending on ads since I didn't have that much money to spend. To my shock, people actually started using it and were sticking around. The reason was that the website exposed them to surprising, unique products from stores they've never heard about.

It's also worth noting that I optimized the ad a lot, tweaking all the details (targeting, image used, copy, where the ad clicks to) until I had an ad that was performing really well, meaning that I was making that $20 count.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it not?

It's about as relevant as what size shoes she wears.

Except the fact that one is (most of the time): - a characteristic that is outwardly visible and generally perceivable -a characteristic upon which many societies have historically (and/or currently) organized biases around

While the other is generally related to how big one's feet are.

I would gather the submission intend to point out that this 'news event' was 'rare' and therefore worth submitting (rare because of the success, being a single founder, and being a woman in a field where (I presume) women are significantly less numerous). Anyway, looks like there were issues with the submission for some reason since it has been edited.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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This is a really impressive story. I wish we got more background about the 2010 era, before she hired engineers in San Francisco? Was this site completely freelancer developed initially? How many users did she get before shipping out to cali? BTW, this site is really taking off with young, social-media crazed teenagers, so keep an eye on it! Already at 8MM users, it's similar to pinterest with a business model that r…

Yes, completely freelancer developed. I closed the agency and moved to SF from LA when we got to 30k monthly uniques.

Overall, the two years prior to the inflection point and the first users were pretty inefficient. The vision was actually always the same (a universal social platform for all of shopping), but the execution changed dramatically. We literally just kept launching features around this concept, but they were pretty unfocused, until the minimalist redesign.

On the other hand, this 2 year period allowed me to make lots of product design mistakes and learn from them and to develop a personal philosophy and approach to product design.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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Hey guys, I'm the CEO and Founder of Wanelo, so I'll jump in here.

In 2007-2008, I actively searched for a technical cofounder, but I couldn’t find one. I did have a false start of working with two great engineers, who in the end weren't interested in taking this on full time.

In parallel, I started consulting as a UX designer to make money. I eventually took on more projects that led me to hire a small team of designers to support all the client work. The income generated from these projects made it possible for me bootstrap Wanelo on my own and hire an engineer in India and a couple people under him to start building Wanelo. This was a direct contracting situation (he got paid and there was no equity involved) which went on for a couple of years.

We built a bunch of features that nobody cared to use until, finally, at the end of 2010, we launched a version (mentioned in the presentation) which people started using for the first time. At that point, I closed down my agency, which ended my source of income. I then asked the main engineer (Sarvjeet) if he would come on board as a CTO/cofounder (since I could no longer pay him or anyone else) and he said yes. This didn’t last for long. After a few months, it became clear very quickly that we were not a good fit for a cofounder relationship. We mutually agreed to end his involvement with the company (there was a 3 months transition period for which he got paid), and I went on solo to raise funding and build a new team, which took over the technical platform. Two months later, we fully rebuilt the website on an entirely new stack, leaving all the old code behind.

To elaborate on the “no team” comment, that comes directly from investors who refused to consider me and a remote engineer in India as a real team. This was the main challenge in raising money. Investors would literally call me a solo female non technical founder because it was just me with no engineering background and some remote contractors, and it took 40 rejections from investors to close my seed round.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand. Did you not have company equity in your name? As far as I understand, it would be impossible to acquire the company, its patents, and associated technology without proper paperwork?

We believe what happened is that he tore up my contract without telling me, established a new, clean corporate entity after pushing me out (though my contract was supposedly still valid, it was with the old entity), and simply transferred all intellectual property to the new entity. He kept the name the same but changed it from LLC to a corporation. The acquiring company claims never to have heard my name, other than…

All of these things should have been notarized and filed in the state you formed the LLC in. There are records for all of this, and if the IP was in the name of the old LLC, which you were a Member of, he shouldn't have been able to do any of these actions unless he just forged your signature.

Seems odd to me. Find a lawyer, if you have a convincing case they might work pro bono at first if they can foresee a big payoff.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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I am Sarvjeet Ahuja, on which this whole thread started. Want to clarify the following:

- Me and Deena are known to each other for many years - I did the initial coding without being the co-founder and executed it as a services business - I built the product with Java(Struts2, Hibernate, MySQL) and worked on it single handedly for few years. - Lately, when we started getting some traction, we decided to persue it together full time, by taking equity and to work as a co-founder and CTO of the company - We got the first terms sheet when I was the co-founder of the company. Someone has given the link to TMT investments, which is correct. - Due to some difference on how to grow the company (particularly some investors were against me being in India), we decided to separate. The entire discussion was initiated by me and I am the one responsible for split. - Deena is a wonderful entrepreneur and I have very high regards for her. And I am proud of what Wanelo has become. Entire credit goes to her. - Constantin is an awesome Engineer and the current team of Wanelo is killer. They have done a phenomenal job and much better than I could have done it. - I am currently working as a general partner with The Morpheus, kind of YC of India. - I still hold a fraction of percent in the company.

Hope that clarifies everything. Please stop making un-necessary comments against her and stop digging the past.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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Slide 5, is not identifying Amazon there some kind of joke? I know they're not the same but I'm not sure how you say online shopping is completely without any answer without looking daft. Anyway they seem to be doing well and they have amazing reviews and a great brand. I'd really like to know how they decided not to show pricing in their feed though on the mobile app. When I joined I followed lots of companies, thos…

Amazon is not a social platform.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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post #137

Slide 5, is not identifying Amazon there some kind of joke? I know they're not the same but I'm not sure how you say online shopping is completely without any answer without looking daft. Anyway they seem to be doing well and they have amazing reviews and a great brand. I'd really like to know how they decided not to show pricing in their feed though on the mobile app. When I joined I followed lots of companies, thos…

Amazon is not a social platform.

Fair enough if that's what she was going for, I didn't see the talk so I'm just going from the slides. Interestingly shopping is probably where the new players have made the biggest impact on the 90s players (where they existed) in that list though.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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Seems like a cool tool for people who like to shop for visually appealing stuff, but I don't think it's really "fixed" any problems or truly modernized e-commerce. It's basically a clever front for a ton of affiliate programs, which interests me because my startup does something similar. I just wouldn't go so far as to consider it the "YouTube of Shopping" (slide 5). If anything, Amazon Prime belongs in that position…

We're just getting started. Amazon Prime is not a social platform. Slide 5 is all about the web becoming social.
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