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Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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This is an entirely bogus history. She had a tech co-founder and cut him out. I met him back in 2009. https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=8860093 Why lie about it?

The phrasing entirely bogus seems hyperbolic. She may have left out a (key?) piece of information, but does that invalidate the summary of what the team achieved?

Agreed. I would rewrite on hindsight. This is an artful retelling that misleads via omission.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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post #67

This is an entirely bogus history. She had a tech co-founder and cut him out. I met him back in 2009. https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=8860093 Why lie about it?

The phrasing entirely bogus seems hyperbolic. She may have left out a (key?) piece of information, but does that invalidate the summary of what the team achieved?

The comment you're replying to was referring to the original, now redacted, title of the HN Post, which was "Single, female, non-tech founder with no team...and her first 1 million users", which makes the phrasing less hyperbolic.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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post #56
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's about not having a co-founder; not her marital status.

It's minus half a credibility point for being a lone wolf founder. The reasons to have founders plural are countless.

As are the reasons to not have a cofounder. There is no pure formula for success.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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So, she's non technical and somehow has a website that someone presumably set up, installed on a server and maintained etc? Or she's 'solo'? There's talk of a founder being cut out early on (cannot confirm or refute)... In short, there's parts to this story that are missing. You can't just throw up your favourite flavour of CMS with a theme from themeforest and magically hit it off, there's technical considerations t…

She was running an agency before, it's possible she just just hired people to do work for her but they weren't a permanent part of the team.

Entirely possible, but even running a large scale installation of anything that's doing a lot of traffic isn't a picnic, so she either is technical or had someone managing it for her.

Imagine if I were to claim I started a business myself, 'solo' style with no tech knowledge but actually had a paid team of people managing the day to day stuff for me and just refused to acknowledge they exist so I appear as a martyr?

Point is, we aren't getting the full story here, whatever that full story may be.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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Call me skeptical, but it reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5sxLapAts

Like other commenters have said, how did she, being a non-technical founder with no team, could set up the (what appears to be custom-made) website? It's like going to a hackathon and claim that you build an app within 24 hours, but actually have implemented majority of it beforehand and making it a "library".

Anyway, looking at the positive side, had the slides contain more detail, I believe it can be inspiring for many people and not received with skepticisms.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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This is an entirely bogus history. She had a tech co-founder and cut him out. I met him back in 2009. https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=8860093 Why lie about it?

I'm not sure that she - the founder - is lying in this presentation (though she fails to mention her technical cofounder). I think it's more that the title of this submission, which was presumably not made by her, was inaccurate (and has since been changed to its current title which is more accurate). Lots of companies screw their technical cofounders. I was the technical cofounder of a company that was later acquire…

> I was the technical cofounder of a company that was later acquired, but never received the $12.8 million check I was supposed to and didn't have the resources to fight back against a maniacal cofounder flush with $60+ million in new cash from the acquisition.

Not to derail, but let's hear that story. Seems like hiring a lawyer would be a no-brainer if you were due $12.8m.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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This is an entirely bogus history. She had a tech co-founder and cut him out. I met him back in 2009. https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=8860093 Why lie about it?

I'm not sure that she - the founder - is lying in this presentation (though she fails to mention her technical cofounder). I think it's more that the title of this submission, which was presumably not made by her, was inaccurate (and has since been changed to its current title which is more accurate). Lots of companies screw their technical cofounders. I was the technical cofounder of a company that was later acquire…

If you have any evidence to your claim of $12.88 mm, I imagine there are lawyers that would be willing to take your case on contingency...did you not even try to seek one out?

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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About rebuilding from scratch: Most of the time this is a big NO in software. But I think a demo product is an exception.

A demo is just a demo. Quickly put together as a proof of concept. And I think going from demo to product is the one and only time when rebuilding from scratch makes sense.

So I think they made the right choice.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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post #46
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you HN for instantly voting this up to the top. A woman builds a big business from scratch and rather than wondering why it took so long for her to get funding we instantly latch on to a second-hand report that she might've had a falling out with someone before her site even started taking off. Ignoring the fact that this isn't incompatible with the presentation at all or that there's plenty of male founders wh…

I think HN has a very low tolerance for bullshit, no matter what your background or situation is. If you had a tech co-founder, then parted ways with them before getting funding, then advertise yourself has being solo with no co-founder people are going to call you on it.

She says "no tech cofounder" when she was looking around for funding, and mentions it only to the extent that it makes it more difficult to get funding. The next slides are all about the technical team.

Plenty of "co-founders" disappear in early stage startups that take a long time to get going, and at that point they're no longer co-founders, they were just associated people.

I think that HN has a very low tolerance for some sorts of bullshit. But it apparently it has a high tolerance for bullshit questions about people that aren't involved with a startup's current success.

Re: Wanelo: The First Million Users

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post #40

This is an entirely bogus history. She had a tech co-founder and cut him out. I met him back in 2009. https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=8860093 Why lie about it?

Thank you HN for instantly voting this up to the top. A woman builds a big business from scratch and rather than wondering why it took so long for her to get funding we instantly latch on to a second-hand report that she might've had a falling out with someone before her site even started taking off. Ignoring the fact that this isn't incompatible with the presentation at all or that there's plenty of male founders wh…

Suspicion of impropriety heightens concern, probably due to self-preservation instincts. Someone you don't trust implicitly is more likely to seem suspicious to you if there's a claim of impropriety that can't immediately be explained away by any other currently-available information. When you do implicitly trust someone, much less concern is attributed, even without additional information. This applies uniformly without regard to gender - unless the person viewing the claim is biased towards a particular gender, such as misogynists and misandrists.

It was upvoted because it's weird, there's no simple explanation, and people are concerned.

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