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Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by Jem »

figital wrote: post #38
noodle wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

fair, but i was referring to more mainstream sources. i'm not trying to imply that this is what is happening, but i do think it could be an interesting metric to compare -- how much noise you get from downtime 6 months ago to the noise of today.

It made drudge about 15 minutes ago.

BBC are reporting it too.

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by voom »

nick-dap wrote: post #42
joubert wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/443634

And as we know a lot of it has been blown out of proportions thanks to the potent mix of random "twats" and overeager traditional media. As a tool it has its uses. However, I strongly believe that 45 million people don't _need_ this as a tool and use it purely for enterntainment. To say that we rely on Twitter for communication is simply false.

I was banned for using the word "twat" (modded down mercilessly even after I posted the full definition because I wasn't sufficiently humble about it).

Look up the account, sharkfish.

http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=sharkfish

What is wrong with you people. Can't you see this poster is ruining the forum!?!?

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by zach »

nick-dap wrote: post #18

"these outages are much more serious. 45 million people worldwide now rely on Twitter as a communication platform" Riiiight. Rely is a very strong word. How will we do business?! How will we talk to our friends and relatives?! Let's face it, Twitter solved a problem that never existed.

Sure it does. The problem is how to do public chat via your mobile phone. Of course, by now that's a footnote...

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by joubert »

nick-dap wrote: post #42
joubert wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/443634

And as we know a lot of it has been blown out of proportions thanks to the potent mix of random "twats" and overeager traditional media. As a tool it has its uses. However, I strongly believe that 45 million people don't _need_ this as a tool and use it purely for enterntainment. To say that we rely on Twitter for communication is simply false.

I would argue it is for the market to decide what people need.

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by omouse »

nick-dap wrote: post #39
mixmax wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how new markets are born. Back in the day e-mail solved a problem that didn't exist too.

There was no way to transfer a document instantly and without using paper. Faxes were slow and used paper. There was a clear business need. So I don't think thats a fair comparison. Then again I don't remember those days from personal experiences, just making an assumption. From a different perspective. If it was serving a need people would be willing to pay for it.

Uh, there was no clear business need. Businesses were fine with using fax machines and the telephone. If there was a clear business need, XEROX would have capitalized on it since they had some of the first networked PCs.

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by joubert »

nick-dap wrote: post #39
mixmax wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how new markets are born. Back in the day e-mail solved a problem that didn't exist too.

There was no way to transfer a document instantly and without using paper. Faxes were slow and used paper. There was a clear business need. So I don't think thats a fair comparison. Then again I don't remember those days from personal experiences, just making an assumption. From a different perspective. If it was serving a need people would be willing to pay for it.

Before Twitter, there was no way to Tweet.

Re: Serious Twitter, LiveJournal Outage Ongoing

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Post by poutine »

mtw wrote: post #47
poutine wrote: post #31

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That is indeed the solution. If a Twitter type service is to become a real communications platform it must be federated (decentralized) and immune to DOS attacks, government intervention, etc.

that's the idea behind identi.ca

I was thinking XMPP/Google Wave. Identi.ca will never win over the Twitter audience, something different may.
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