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Re: Coming Soon to Hacker News: Pending Comments

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Post by corin_ »

Love the idea, think and hope it will improve comments greatly - a few questions:

Will you be able to tell whether a comment you posted has been endorsed enough to become visible (or even how many endorsements)?

Would it be a good idea (and if so, would it be doable or too complicated) to automatically figure out users who deserve to get auto-approved, at least until they are flagged enough to undo it? Maybe if x% (95? 100?) of your last y comments (100? 500?) have been approved it could give you the benefit of the doubt?

Would it be worth offering users with 1000+ karma the ability to disable their abilities so they could enjoy the filtered version others see? Or would too many people chose the option making it not work at all?

Finally, I lost my flagging rights ages ago, presumably for using it too liberally - is there any system in place whereby that might reverse? Will that mean I don't see new comments, or can I see but not flag/endorse, or can I see and endorse but still not flag?

Anyway, excited to see the change :)

Edit: a related, slightly, question: Does HN "shadowban" users from downvoting, i.e. do some users think they can downvote (or indeed upvote) but their votes aren't counted? Not sure why, but I've felt that might be the case for my downvote for a little while.

Re: Coming Soon to Hacker News: Pending Comments

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Post by lunixbochs »

belleruches wrote: post #164
lunixbochs wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

pg says 1000+ is arbitrary. It probably stands to be tuned. I wonder if this will have any effect on interesting comment sub-threads on links that don't hit the first couple of pages.

It's probably going to be for the better. My biggest concern though is that HN may become to clique-ish... Those with low karma that have interesting thoughts may now be discouraged from sharing...

I don't think that will universally be the case. Low karma might also indicate you don't post much, so you're less likely to be annoyed.

Re: Coming Soon to Hacker News: Pending Comments

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Post by tdicola »

If I want to make a Show HN post that links to a project, and immediately comment to introduce it and fill in details will it have to wait for a 1000+ karma person to endorse it? Any way to make that kind of scenario work a little better? I have a feeling a lot of Show HN stuff will just get buried.

Re: Coming Soon to Hacker News: Pending Comments

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Post by derefr »

pgrote wrote: post #188
jamesaguilar wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://news.ycombinator.com/leaders shows at least a hundred with over 1000, and probably many more than that considering the falloff in points becomes more gradual as you go down the list. My comments are nothing special and I have >6000 karma. Even if only 10% of those people are still active, there will be no shortage of endorsers for the livelier discussions.

Why is there a blank line in the list between jrockway and cwan? Is it someone whose account was deleted?

It's just top-10.

Re: Coming Soon to Hacker News: Pending Comments

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Post by Edmond »

booruguru wrote: post #172

This is ridiculous. It's bad enough that people are downvoted for contrarian opinions, but now our comments need to be vetted by the elite HN users before they can be shown to the rest. I don't get it. This site looks like something made in 1996 (with absolutely no regard for readability), but the big new upgrade we're getting is a draconian (and wholly unnecessary) comment moderation feature/policy? A lot of HN user…

> It's bad enough that people are downvoted for contrarian opinions

I have observed this as well and it is rather childish.

Re: Coming Soon to Hacker News: Pending Comments

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Post by eob »

> 2. Say it without gratuitous nastiness.

I really hope this change addresses this! Maybe I'm just becoming an old curmudgeon, but there really seems to be mean, argumentative tones to a lot of the conversation I read on HN these days.

I hope we can address it because HN really is a community of smart, earnest, helpful minds that can be a wonderful crowd to eavesdrop on when at their best.

Re: Coming Soon to Hacker News: Pending Comments

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Post by maxerickson »

nairteashop wrote: post #44

I'm sure that this has been brought up before, but I've always wondered whether it makes sense to split karma into comment karma and submission karma, reddit-style, and grant this new endorsement power only to folks who cross a certain comment karma threshold. Since now users with high karma will have a lot of power (than just downvoting, which IMO was relatively innocuous), I think it makes sense to ensure that this…

I'm more comfortable calling it hn-influence than I am calling it power.

If the idea is to take it away from people that are misusing it, I don't think the occasional lucky submitter getting some undue hn-influence will be a big problem.

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