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Hey PG, I think you're doing the right thing. I've watched HN start to turn into a place full of snark and very useless comments. This is a great measure, but is the 1000 points karma a high threshold for the endorsers? Why not 500 or 750?
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This is exactly the kind of comment I wouldn't endorse :)
Why? This is substantial and not nasty. That's just a different point of view. Although it doesn't add a lot of context to his opinion. That's the problem with moderation. People will tend to endorse what supports their beliefs. You can endorse a post you don't agree with.
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If the comment doesn't make it out of pending in a day, what happens to it and its poster then? Edit: Deletion is currently possible for less than that (2 hours?). Will this be different for pending comments?
Yes, deletion is possible for a pending comment as long as it's pending.
Hey PG, I think you're doing the right thing. I've watched HN start to turn into a place full of snark and very useless comments. This is a great measure, but is the 1000 points karma a high threshold for the endorsers? Why not 500 or 750?
pg says 1000+ is arbitrary. It probably stands to be tuned. I wonder if this will have any effect on interesting comment sub-threads on links that don't hit the first couple of pages.
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Also, so much for 1-on-1 comment threads that are deeply buried and are not intended to be prominently displayed to anyone else. I've had lots of interesting conversations like that.
As I understand it, that's kind of the point.
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+1 for showpending. At least allow people some way to choose read what's being intentionally kept out. Might be interesting.
I keep showdead turned on for purposes of the hellbanned folks, some of whom really don't deserve the ban. I wouldn't turn on a showpending, though. If you can't get a few users to endorse you, it probably wasn't worth saying. I suspect anything remotely substantial will get the endorsements it needs. The userbase here is more diverse than is readily apparent.
Some thoughts: 1) It would be fun to try this on only a subset of articles posted, so we could get real A/B testing on how well it works. The same issues get posted under multiple submissions, so we could see if the quantity and quality of comments is improved by pending, independent of the topics. 2) "showpending" to allow 3) These's now a huge incentive to farm a few 1001 karma point alt accounts. You can do that w…
I fear this change will have some unintended consequences: 1. In a Ask/Show HN post, (which is often similar to a reddit AMA), the OP will not be able to reply to clarifications questions until their previous one is 'endorsed'. 2. Multiple ( 2a. Either moderators endorsing multiple such comments, due to race conditions and stale views during moderation, or 2b. Moderators would endorse the first (or "best") of them, a…
You can remove your pending comment after some time.
It may also have a second order "unintended" consequence over time- People would stop posting shallowly obvious responses, due to the negative feedback of never having them endorsed.
I fear this change will have some unintended consequences: 1. In a Ask/Show HN post, (which is often similar to a reddit AMA), the OP will not be able to reply to clarifications questions until their previous one is 'endorsed'. 2. Multiple ( 2a. Either moderators endorsing multiple such comments, due to race conditions and stale views during moderation, or 2b. Moderators would endorse the first (or "best") of them, a…