Weev Needs To Walk

#1

Post by testrun » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 11:44 AM UTC

Weev Needs To Walk
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Re: Weev Needs To Walk

#2

Post by mherdeg » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 2:32 PM UTC

The author writes "Weev is a good guy. I know him."

Is that true? What about his behavior towards Kathy Sierra?

(I agree that it is a problem for unjust things to happen to bad people.)

Re: Weev Needs To Walk

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Post by DoubleMalt » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 2:34 PM UTC

Weev is not a good guy imo. I'm not even sure I prefer him outside of prison walls for some of his past actions (although of course the solitary stuff is outrageous).

But: He really must be acquitted for the actions he is now in jail for. There is just no way this should ever be punishable. Otherwise it would set a very bad precedent for corporation bullying of people that uncover negligence when it comes to customer security.

Re: Weev Needs To Walk

#4

Post by wankershim » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 2:35 PM UTC

Just give him a rope and say, "Aaron knew what to do." a la Hoover's FBI and MLK.

Re: Weev Needs To Walk

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Post by 6cxs2hd6 » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 2:41 PM UTC

> The problem, in short, is that the Assistant U.S. Attorney Glenn Moramarco doesn’t understand what Weev did and instead compared his hacking to “blowing up a nuclear plant in New Jersey.” He said:

>> We have a case here where…[the defense] is arguing that this was completely open to everyone. But you look at the testimony of Daniel Spitler and the steps he had to take to get to this wide open Web and I’m flabbergasted that this could be called anything other than a hack. He had to download the entire iOS system on his computer. He had to decrypt it. He had to do all sorts of things—I don’t even understand what they are.

Wow.

When a prosecutor is not only technically illiterate, but proud of their illiteracy, they should be disbarred.

In my opinion, this individual's statement makes them sound like a self-aggrandizing, grade-A asshole -- the prosecutorial equivalent of an ambulance chaser with a low-def ad on late night TV and a strip-mall office that smells like moldy carpet.

Re: Weev Needs To Walk

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Post by angersock » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 2:44 PM UTC

6cxs2hd6 wrote: post #5

> The problem, in short, is that the Assistant U.S. Attorney Glenn Moramarco doesn’t understand what Weev did and instead compared his hacking to “blowing up a nuclear plant in New Jersey.” He said: >> We have a case here where…[the defense] is arguing that this was completely open to everyone. But you look at the testimony of Daniel Spitler and the steps he had to take to get to this wide open Web and I’m flabbergas…

Yeah, when the state can't even articulate the act, much less why it is wrong, it is really hard to respect their jurisprudence.

EDIT:

And before anyone counters with "Whether you respect it or not, it's the law (and they have the power to enforce it).", do consider that such an argument is basically saying that the rule of law boils down to men with guns.

I don't think that that is either noble or desirable--for a civilization, we must do better.

Re: Weev Needs To Walk

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Post by ataggart » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 2:58 PM UTC

angersock wrote: post #6

6cxs2hd6 wrote: post #5

> The problem, in short, is that the Assistant U.S. Attorney Glenn Moramarco doesn’t understand what Weev did and instead compared his hacking to “blowing up a nuclear plant in New Jersey.” He said: >> We have a case here where…[the defense] is arguing that this was completely open to everyone. But you look at the testimony of Daniel Spitler and the steps he had to take to get to this wide open Web and I’m flabbergas…

Yeah, when the state can't even articulate the act, much less why it is wrong, it is really hard to respect their jurisprudence. EDIT: And before anyone counters with "Whether you respect it or not, it's the law (and they have the power to enforce it).", do consider that such an argument is basically saying that the rule of law boils down to men with guns. I don't think that that is either noble or desirable--for a c…

The rule of law does boil down to men with guns.

http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm

Re: Weev Needs To Walk

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Post by wavefunction » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 3:00 PM UTC

DoubleMalt wrote: post #3

Weev is not a good guy imo. I'm not even sure I prefer him outside of prison walls for some of his past actions (although of course the solitary stuff is outrageous). But: He really must be acquitted for the actions he is now in jail for. There is just no way this should ever be punishable. Otherwise it would set a very bad precedent for corporation bullying of people that uncover negligence when it comes to customer…

I agree that he should be acquitted for the "crimes" of which he finds himself incarcerated for, since they aren't crimes.

However, weev also needs to stop being such an asshole about other things and being so proud of that.

Re: Weev Needs To Walk

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Post by webkike » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 3:08 PM UTC

    [01:33]  what kind of furry bluefox are you?
    [01:33]  i have a giant weevil costume
    [01:33]  with fawn horns
    [01:33]  to symbolize my malevolence

Re: Weev Needs To Walk

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Post by gadders » Fri, Mar 21, 2014, 3:14 PM UTC

DoubleMalt wrote: post #3

Weev is not a good guy imo. I'm not even sure I prefer him outside of prison walls for some of his past actions (although of course the solitary stuff is outrageous). But: He really must be acquitted for the actions he is now in jail for. There is just no way this should ever be punishable. Otherwise it would set a very bad precedent for corporation bullying of people that uncover negligence when it comes to customer…

Agreed. There is no law against being a dick, which is his main offence.