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Re: Invoice Ninja

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Post by patio11 »

InvoiceNinja wrote: post #49
brandon272 wrote: post #46

You should charge something for this. Even if you charged $10/year, it at least gives the impression that there is a contract and agreement in place that you will maintain the service and protect and provide the service. I have no interest, personally, in entering a bunch of invoice data in a service that might get shut down in a year after the developers lose interest in maintaining something that they lose money on…

Hi Brandon! Email is also free, Facebook is free, waze, twitter, etc... We will NOT be charging a monthly or annual fee for InvoiceNinja.com Email us to discuss: contact@invoiceninja.com

My wife and I loved the logo. Nice sense of whimsy.

I'm not in the market for a new invoicing app, but if I were, the perceived sustainability of your business model is a dealbreaker for using you for it. My business deals with a 6 year audit window. (Technically speaking, multiple overlapping 6 year audit windows.) If your business fails, and I get audited, bad stuff happens. (e.g. The National Tax Agency might come to the conclusion "Mr. McKenzie, you claimed you had $5,000 withheld by clients in 2010 on your tax return for that fiscal year, but you seem to be unable to support that with original documentation. That's unfortunate, but we believe you're acting without malice, so in lieu of imprisoning you we'll just ask you to pay the $5,000 plus statutory interest of 8% a year."

Does this adequately explain why Free-as-in-Beer invoicing software doesn't exactly light a fire in my belly?

Re: Invoice Ninja

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Post by frade33 »

I instantly shunned it because it is advertised as hosted invoicing CMS. I know you can install it yourself, and this is where you should focus on too, like fusioninvoice, which I am very comfortable with at this time.

No serious person is ever going to use your 'free-cloud-powered' service. As for paid cloud powered invoicing cms, freshbooks is a good choice, because I know they are not going to disappear overnight. But they are damn expensive for a small company therefore I use self-hosted fusion invoice cms.

Re: Invoice Ninja

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Post by anderspetersson »

InvoiceNinja wrote: post #49
brandon272 wrote: post #46

You should charge something for this. Even if you charged $10/year, it at least gives the impression that there is a contract and agreement in place that you will maintain the service and protect and provide the service. I have no interest, personally, in entering a bunch of invoice data in a service that might get shut down in a year after the developers lose interest in maintaining something that they lose money on…

Hi Brandon! Email is also free, Facebook is free, waze, twitter, etc... We will NOT be charging a monthly or annual fee for InvoiceNinja.com Email us to discuss: contact@invoiceninja.com

This looks really good!

You could charge for extra services, for example API access or "Sell my invoice"-integration.

Re: Invoice Ninja

#65

Post by nobodysfool »

trebor wrote: post #6
ville wrote: post #4

The demo is very fast, I just click a button and I'm in the middle of creating an invoice in a blink of an eye and it even produces the PDF right away. Good job. I didn't find the pricing information anywhere on the site, however. Even after I clicked Sign Up there was no mention of how much it costs or if it's free, so I went back to the front page searching for that information and didn't find it there either. EDIT…

Um, did you miss the yellow block on the left side of the front page? It says... 100% FREE, ALWAYS Invoicing with no monthly fee, because you have enough bills already! Free, now and forever! Quality invoicing to build your business and get paid. There are references to "Free" all over the front page.

Well, this is one product that you can say the developers are NOT dogfooding.

Re: Invoice Ninja

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Post by sailfast »

Looks great. Quick bug report - when working on an actual invoice I ran into issues on FireFox ESR 24. (I would imagine this happens any time a user restricts access to rendering PDFs on screen or in the browser as objects?) It pops up the "Open or Save" dialog each time a change is made and the object fails to load in the window below. Perhaps detecting the issue up front and then offering a "download" button when complete would be an alternative.

Re: Invoice Ninja

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Post by jweather »

sailfast wrote: post #66

Looks great. Quick bug report - when working on an actual invoice I ran into issues on FireFox ESR 24. (I would imagine this happens any time a user restricts access to rendering PDFs on screen or in the browser as objects?) It pops up the "Open or Save" dialog each time a change is made and the object fails to load in the window below. Perhaps detecting the issue up front and then offering a "download" button when c…

Agreed... using external PDF viewers doesn't work with this site at all.

Re: Invoice Ninja

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Post by [deleted] »

patio11 wrote: post #61
InvoiceNinja wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Brandon! Email is also free, Facebook is free, waze, twitter, etc... We will NOT be charging a monthly or annual fee for InvoiceNinja.com Email us to discuss: contact@invoiceninja.com

My wife and I loved the logo. Nice sense of whimsy. I'm not in the market for a new invoicing app, but if I were, the perceived sustainability of your business model is a dealbreaker for using you for it. My business deals with a 6 year audit window. (Technically speaking, multiple overlapping 6 year audit windows.) If your business fails, and I get audited, bad stuff happens. (e.g. The National Tax Agency might come…

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Re: Invoice Ninja

#69

Post by mholt »

Cool. Ever thought of verifying the addresses to make sure you're not missing apartment numbers and stuff? SmartyStreets would be happy to donate unlimited service to your startup for free for a year.

Re: Invoice Ninja

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Post by michaelmior »

InvoiceNinja wrote: post #49
brandon272 wrote: post #46

You should charge something for this. Even if you charged $10/year, it at least gives the impression that there is a contract and agreement in place that you will maintain the service and protect and provide the service. I have no interest, personally, in entering a bunch of invoice data in a service that might get shut down in a year after the developers lose interest in maintaining something that they lose money on…

Hi Brandon! Email is also free, Facebook is free, waze, twitter, etc... We will NOT be charging a monthly or annual fee for InvoiceNinja.com Email us to discuss: contact@invoiceninja.com

Facebook and Twitter have (m|b)illions of users and investment dollars behind them and thousands of employees. While I don't know a lot about your company, that in itself is a strong signal that you're not in the same boat.

I respect your desire to want to office the service for free, but I don't think your comparison will help to assuage anyone's fears of you disappearing.

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