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Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

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This is very relatable. I find this to be a common problem among a huge number of people. Is there any way to come out of it?

For me personally, I see that people with mentors tend to do a lot better. Or at least a group of like minded people. Maybe there is something that can be built to help people like you or me?

Something to gets rid of the constant superiority complex of programmers and instead helps in passing knowledge down from expert to amateur.

Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

#32
post #30

Read the book "The Practicing Mind" by Thomas Sterner. In this moment you are already perfect exactly as you are, because in this moment there is no other way that you can possibly be. If you are already perfect in this moment, then what to do? Practice. It is committing to practice in this moment that will manifest a better version of yourself in a future moment. But realize, the practice need not be stressful, beca…

Oh, and make sure to get your diet, exercise, and sleep game dialed. High cortisol levels destroy your brain and make you stupid. It happened to me and took almost 5 years to heal.

Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

#33

It sounds like you are trying too hard to feel validated and you want immediate success. You have written a very long piece including your entire background, the success of your peers compared to yourself, the positions and awards you have gotten in various competitions (for better or worse). You sound entirely focused on accolades and achievements yet you have only been going at this for at most 1/2 years. You need…

I'm in OP's shoes, except at 28. Nothing motivates me better than the thought of hitting 30. :)

Same, i'm just 26 though ;)

Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

#34

I also seeked medical help but got disappointed by suggestions like "sleep a lot and eat well". That helps but not in the long run; neither can prevent this situation from happening in future. It does help, even more in the long run.

Yes! This please, yes!

Your body is not just the carrying case for your brain. Your brain is an integral part of your body. Taking care of your body is taking care of your brain.

Depression often follows not taking care of yourself. If your body is suffering your brain (emotions, intellect) suffer along with it.

Sleeping enough, eating well, exercise is necessary for healthy emotions as well as healthy body. May seem boring but I think of it as fundamental background work to keep the entire system working well.

Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

#35
Stop reading Hacker News, stop trying to cram knowledge in, take 6 months and go work in a bar. The problem is you've burnt yourself out and you're not going to be able to get back into it until you've taken some time for yourself to evaluate whether it's the right path.

Don't worry about tech, you're 22, the world isn't going away.

Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

#36
I went through burn out. During that time I learned what it must feel like to be stupid. I would look at code that I had written and stare blankly at it, unable to comprehend any of it.

For a time I couldn't even be in the same room as my computer. Being close to it would make me physically ill.

I took a year off. I'm still catching up on news that happened in 2012.

Some thoughts from skimming your post:

- You said you would lie to people about still being in school. Don't do that. Don't lie unless there's an imminent threat to your safety or that of others. Lying only adds to your mental and emotional burden, which will also take a physical toll on you. In your case, it probably also makes it more difficult for others to help you (by putting distance between you and those close to you, and feeding them false information).

- Don't act alone. Think of others. You can't do a startup by yourself. I learned that the hard way. While I was able to pull it off for a few years, it was at large expense, and ultimately resulted in burn out.

- Get rest. If you're at the point where learning new things is difficult because of burn out, it means you need a lot of rest. It could take months, even a year. Take a break, and reflect on the lessons your burnout taught you.

Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

#37
I am currently completing my CS studies in a small country on the European periphery, that is currently undergoing self-imposed austerity cuts. Banks aren't lending any money to business, and very few companies are hiring.

Our education system mandates that students must complete a mandatory two month apprenticeship at the end of their studies. The problem is that very few companies are willing to take on students, even for free. So I am in a kind of Catch-22 position.

It's a very depressing time.

Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

#38
I dropped out of CS, moved to another city nearby and started to live and hack to build things I always wanted to, all in isolation for 2 months. After that point I found myself getting quite unproductive, eventually leading to physical symptoms of depression and stress.

Why do this? You're not a robot and you don't have all the answers. You need experience and you need social stimulus, especially at your age. Go back to school, slowly hack away at something all the while meeting different people, getting experience and trying to enjoy life.

You won't be a millionaire in your 20s or retire in your 30s so forget about that nonsense and don't let that be your benchmark.

Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

#39
Just adding my $.02 here:

"Even the concept of Prolog seems hard for me to understand."

Don't let that little item discourage you. I've been in the software business since 1974. The concept of Prolog is hard to understand. There's a lot of concepts in our business that are hard to understand...and that's not a failing on your part. Learning to live with what you don't know, and developing strategies for selecting what (and how much) to try to learn is key.

Re: I am burned out while still in learning phase

#40
It sounds like you're depressed and blocked. It doesn't seem very popular advice over here, but here I go again: go visit a psychologist. That doesn't mean you shouldn't adopt other measures. Exercise, sleeping, etc. are good. But help in forums have big disadvantages. We're not seeing you. We might have experimented similar situations, but not exactly the same. We can't follow through the steps you take. Not talking we're not pros.
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