This is flawed in its effects. While it may result in more coders, they will be concentrated in the areas with the available money to pay them more. I'd argue that this is very similar to what we are doing already. Programming is chasing the money and not the most pressing problems.
A simple way to "get more people to code"
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#22I believe the "get more people to code" movement wasn't about "we need more programmers". It was about what Alan Kay might call "digital literacy".
And why do we need digital literacy any more than machine gun literacy or brain surgery literacy or anything like that? Except Alan Kay, everyone knows perfectly well how useless programming is to anyone but the professional programmer.
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#23I think that all this "get people to code" movement is bullshit. If you like programming you are going to do it no matter what. For some years I was without a computer, but I still managed to program in my smartphone. I will always like programming regardless of the outcome. If one day I become successful because of this great. If not at least I lived my life the way I like.
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#24This is flawed in its effects. While it may result in more coders, they will be concentrated in the areas with the available money to pay them more. I'd argue that this is very similar to what we are doing already. Programming is chasing the money and not the most pressing problems.
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#25I wonder if he doesn't realize companies are just always claiming a shortage so that they can import more cheaper H1B workers rather than hire domestic...
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#26I think that all this "get people to code" movement is bullshit. If you like programming you are going to do it no matter what. For some years I was without a computer, but I still managed to program in my smartphone. I will always like programming regardless of the outcome. If one day I become successful because of this great. If not at least I lived my life the way I like.
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#27After 25+ years of coding and reading other people's code I would submit that the REAL problem is that the people who do code don't do it very well, some are downright stupid. There are a lot of people out there who will never be able to produce anything beyond "Hello World" and some will struggle to get that far. What if we focused early on identifying kids with good problem solving skill and other aptitudes that mi…
I think EVERYONE should learn to code just as everyone learns ARITHMETIC.
Imagine a world where only a few of us knew how to balance an account, or a few of us understood how much will they have left if they spent x amount at the gas station.
Now imagine a world where everybody has a basic ability to develop software.
All the above being said, the beginning is not programming, but learning how to Think, Read, and Write. Not programming language, but human language. When we have learned some basic thinking process (logic), then having the ability to easily program will follow.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't that imply that there is a shortage of programmers worth their salary?
Then...drop their salary? Are these companies being run by four-year-olds? "We lured developers with huge compensation packages because we only want rockstars, but we end up losing money on them!" Which is it? Is it a highly valuable skill that everyone should learn (why doesn't the company owner learn it then?), or is it "sneaky non-unionized-and-colluded-against-by-Google-and-Apple developers aren't "worth" their s…
How could there not be almost nobody but "four-year-olds" in an immature and fast pacing technology sector?
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#29After 25+ years of coding and reading other people's code I would submit that the REAL problem is that the people who do code don't do it very well, some are downright stupid. There are a lot of people out there who will never be able to produce anything beyond "Hello World" and some will struggle to get that far. What if we focused early on identifying kids with good problem solving skill and other aptitudes that mi…
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#30I agree that money is the solution to such problems, however reducing the incentive once enough programmers have entered the workforce would compel people to leave the field and do something else. If it was known that this reduction would come, it's likely that it might not have a positive effect on programmers and many people would not necessarily pursue a career in the field. Also, one has to take into account that…
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