Full-disclosure – Administrivia: The End • Hacker News Board

Post by roel_v » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 12:51 PM UTC

at-fates-hands wrote: post #68

znowi wrote: post #60

Instrumental in this message for me was this part: There is no honour amongst hackers any more. 10-20 years back a term hacker had a close relation to a certain moral conduct emphasizing freedom of knowledge. Today with a mass market of startups, that was largely popularized by Hacker News, this perception has changed. A hacker now is a founder. He must be good at raising money, monetizing a product and the greatest…

>>> 10-20 years back a term hacker had a close relation to a certain morale conduct emphasizing freedom of knowledge. Agreed. There was a certain "code" people adhered to. Even groups like LOD wouldn't release exploits because they feared people would use them for nefarious purposes.

8/ Not sure what you're referring to here... Although gobbles is the only 'organized' (to use that term loosely) full disclosure group from that era that I remember off the cuff, plenty of people posted their (working) exploit code to even 'respectable' lists as bugtraq, not to mention people copy and pasting exploits to IRC the minute they had it working. Any I'm not even talking about joe schmoe's abandoned sourceforge project either - wuftpd had exploits posted and thousands of people got defaced in the hours/days after such a release, complete with defacing archives to keep score (yes I realize the exploit writers weren't usually the defacers).

In short, in the 1990's there were huge amounts of full disclosure, and even those trying to work with vendors were usually snubbed by those vendors. It was a completely different landscape.

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