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Firefox 28 Release Notes

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Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

#31

9007199254740992 running in "random" mode with 0ms delay is still way faster in Chromium 32 than in Firefox 28. http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b01902112/9007199254740992/

Same there (try 10000 sites, click "Benchmark"):

http://www.raymondhill.net/voronoi/rhill-voronoi-demo1.html

The difference has narrowed though, FF used to be much, much slower than chromium.

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

#32
post #20

Eagerly waiting to ditch Chrome & its forced notifications. Perhaps with Australis (Firefox 29), the UI would be at par. Edit : Chrome feels subtle, lighter & perceptually faster (specifically : tabs, scrollbars). Although after updating Firefox today, I can notice that there's improvement in Firefox.

One major (okay maybe not that major but an important factor in my decision) issue for me with Australis is the separate boxes for URLs and search. Every other browser merged them and I don't know of any reason to keep them separate - is there one?

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Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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post #20

Eagerly waiting to ditch Chrome & its forced notifications. Perhaps with Australis (Firefox 29), the UI would be at par. Edit : Chrome feels subtle, lighter & perceptually faster (specifically : tabs, scrollbars). Although after updating Firefox today, I can notice that there's improvement in Firefox.

One major (okay maybe not that major but an important factor in my decision) issue for me with Australis is the separate boxes for URLs and search. Every other browser merged them and I don't know of any reason to keep them separate - is there one?

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Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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post #20

Eagerly waiting to ditch Chrome & its forced notifications. Perhaps with Australis (Firefox 29), the UI would be at par. Edit : Chrome feels subtle, lighter & perceptually faster (specifically : tabs, scrollbars). Although after updating Firefox today, I can notice that there's improvement in Firefox.

One major (okay maybe not that major but an important factor in my decision) issue for me with Australis is the separate boxes for URLs and search. Every other browser merged them and I don't know of any reason to keep them separate - is there one?

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Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One major (okay maybe not that major but an important factor in my decision) issue for me with Australis is the separate boxes for URLs and search. Every other browser merged them and I don't know of any reason to keep them separate - is there one?

If your search bar is your URL bar, then all your keystrokes (even when typing URLs) go to your search provider to provide autocomplete of search results. In Firefox you can type URLs without having them sent to a third-party. We think this is important. (You can get autocomplete search results by typing in the search bar.)

You could handle this with configuration, as others have.

Edit: judging from the other comments, maybe you have already.

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

#36
post #20

Eagerly waiting to ditch Chrome & its forced notifications. Perhaps with Australis (Firefox 29), the UI would be at par. Edit : Chrome feels subtle, lighter & perceptually faster (specifically : tabs, scrollbars). Although after updating Firefox today, I can notice that there's improvement in Firefox.

One major (okay maybe not that major but an important factor in my decision) issue for me with Australis is the separate boxes for URLs and search. Every other browser merged them and I don't know of any reason to keep them separate - is there one?

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Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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post #20

Eagerly waiting to ditch Chrome & its forced notifications. Perhaps with Australis (Firefox 29), the UI would be at par. Edit : Chrome feels subtle, lighter & perceptually faster (specifically : tabs, scrollbars). Although after updating Firefox today, I can notice that there's improvement in Firefox.

One major (okay maybe not that major but an important factor in my decision) issue for me with Australis is the separate boxes for URLs and search. Every other browser merged them and I don't know of any reason to keep them separate - is there one?

A few areas of impact, likely many more.

Presumed privacy - Some prefer to not send their direct traffic and history title strings through a google search input.

Usability - search engine autocomplete/suggest can interfere when typing a page title from your history.

Money - traffic volume referred to search engines is significantly increased by merging URL and search inputs.

Edit: wow, parent had zero responses when I started typing this!

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

#38
post #20

Eagerly waiting to ditch Chrome & its forced notifications. Perhaps with Australis (Firefox 29), the UI would be at par. Edit : Chrome feels subtle, lighter & perceptually faster (specifically : tabs, scrollbars). Although after updating Firefox today, I can notice that there's improvement in Firefox.

One major (okay maybe not that major but an important factor in my decision) issue for me with Australis is the separate boxes for URLs and search. Every other browser merged them and I don't know of any reason to keep them separate - is there one?

This is to protect user privacy as explained by a Mozilla dev: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6756582

Otherwise every keystroke you made would be sent to Google.

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

#39
post #6

Well, there's also stuff that you can't see in the "release notes". I found that Firefox 27 had huge speed improvements in canvas 2D compared to Firefox 26, at least in Linux without hardware accelerated canvas. I couldn't find anything related to that in 27's release notes, sooo (still happy though!).

In regards to rendering performance, we have this internal app that's pushing a lot of points into timeline charts rendered with HighCharts. When all the datapoints are rendered, Chrome has a lot of latency but is still usable, whereas Firefox chokes. I see that in Australis it's much improved, but still less usable than Chrome. This is awkward since in general I find Firefox's performance to be on par with Chrome, s…

I've found Chrome's graphics performance in general to be better than Firefox's, specifically with regards to canvas and SVG. Not sure the reason, but my guess is just lack of optimization.

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

#40
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of it is the move from single to multi process/thread tab and rendering model. And if I'm remembering correctly a few of the new HTML5 elements added have caused significant (+20-30mb) leaks as they are, as of yet, unoptimized in the rendering code.

There's no multiprocess content code enabled by default yet, so that's not it.

Not process but I could hsave sworn there are multithreaded processes enabled by default in Aurora, image processing for example.
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