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Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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Post by Kudos »

MLR wrote: post #2

Is Australis due out in the next version? Had swapped back to using the default version from nightly in anticipation, but it seems that was a bit premature on my part.

Yes, it's due with 29.

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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Post by twoodfin »

aroch wrote: post #8
reidrac wrote: post #6

Well, there's also stuff that you can't see in the "release notes". I found that Firefox 27 had huge speed improvements in canvas 2D compared to Firefox 26, at least in Linux without hardware accelerated canvas. I couldn't find anything related to that in 27's release notes, sooo (still happy though!).

In case you're curious: http://arewefastyet.com/ https://areweslimyet.com/

Any idea why the "slim" numbers are moving steadily in the wrong direction?

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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Post by Spittie »

dedosk wrote: post #14

Why Firefox removes spdy/2 support? They don't want to support spdy/2 servers? Why? PS: I'm not expert on servers :)

It got discontinued, and Chrome dropped it as well. Both support the newer SPDY/3.1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY#Protocol_versions

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=912550

https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=303957

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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Post by agapos »

twoodfin wrote: post #13
aroch wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case you're curious: http://arewefastyet.com/ https://areweslimyet.com/

Any idea why the "slim" numbers are moving steadily in the wrong direction?

Changes in browser engine and method/elaboration in memory measurement. And possibly a lot of regressions...

Problem is, this does not convince Average Joe about the slimness of Fx. I asked them to set up a main chart using only the stable ones with the latest changes (allocation), but it was ignored. IMHO that would help them see the what the end user would see over the long course, and A. Joe would see what actually effects him (as he is unlikely to use dev channels).

Edit: the charts also do not show the improvements in Garbage Collection (IGC in Fx16, upcoming ICC and GGC) and the memory management with add-os (Hueyfix in Fx15).

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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Post by mccr8 »

twoodfin wrote: post #13
aroch wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case you're curious: http://arewefastyet.com/ https://areweslimyet.com/

Any idea why the "slim" numbers are moving steadily in the wrong direction?

Tiny regressions are hard to track down, but over time they add up.

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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Post by aroch »

twoodfin wrote: post #13
aroch wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case you're curious: http://arewefastyet.com/ https://areweslimyet.com/

Any idea why the "slim" numbers are moving steadily in the wrong direction?

Some of it is the move from single to multi process/thread tab and rendering model. And if I'm remembering correctly a few of the new HTML5 elements added have caused significant (+20-30mb) leaks as they are, as of yet, unoptimized in the rendering code.

Re: Firefox 28 Release Notes

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Post by enscr »

Eagerly waiting to ditch Chrome & its forced notifications. Perhaps with Australis (Firefox 29), the UI would be at par.

Edit : Chrome feels subtle, lighter & perceptually faster (specifically : tabs, scrollbars). Although after updating Firefox today, I can notice that there's improvement in Firefox.

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