Live data from Hacker News

MH370: A different point of view

plus.google.com

181–190 of 224 posts

Re: MH370: A different point of view

#181
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those boxes are built to be untrashable.

As were the boxes on 9/11, but those were allegedly destroyed in the fire.

Well, 9/11 is a different story. Like they have found the passports of the hijackers but the black boxes were destroyed. And some hijackers were alive after the event http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1559151.stm and also not forget that there are too many problems with the official story which makes it suspicious.

Re: MH370: A different point of view

#182
post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The only way we'll get to understand that is by finding the black box which of course would explain the whole thing anyway." I appreciate that there are technical challenges and costs associated with the following idea, but it would be quite an interesting project to create a system that would transmit Flight Data Recorder (FDR) information to a ground location. Off the top of my head, it would need to be flexible,…

Alternatively, why don't planes have floating EPIRBs ( http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distress_radiobeacon ) or even floating black boxes? They could be attached to one or more points on the plane where they're likely to be released if wreckage sinks.

Black boxes do have an ELT. If the plane had crashed it's likely they would have been found it already.

Re: MH370: A different point of view

#183

The autopilot until fuel exhaustion theory doesn't explain how it ended up on this line: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73602000/jpg/_73602229...

I we 100% sure that the plane turned to west? This line aligns with; where the plane lost, and where the oil platform worker noticed a fire on the sky. May be the plane was on the sky, or on the water why pinging?

Re: MH370: A different point of view

#185
post #158
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a dire emergency, you would just dump the fuel and not try to burn it off.

Except, the 777 does not have fuel dumping. It was not required for certification because it meets the minimum required climb rate with an engine failure after takeoff at Max Gross Weight.

Yes it does:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/7/4/7/23...

Look at the top center, at the "Fuel Jettison" switches. (This is a 777-200 non ER, but I doubt the ER model would remove this feature.)

Re: MH370: A different point of view

#190
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of weird reasons to climb like that[1]. I think people dramatically underestimate how mechanical and/or electronic system failure combines with human misjudgement to make things operate in entirely unpredictable ways. I've never been involved in an air crash investigation, but I have done many system outage investigations. The majority of them[2] involve a failure of a hardware/software system, followed by man…

Completely agree. I'm surprised that, especially on HN, the large number of people who won't apply Occam's Razer to the situation. I imagine that most air accident investigations begin like this; confused, competing information from numerous sources of varying reliability. Just with the internet and 24h news, everyone is following along with each revelation (see also the Pistorius trial). Give it some time, let the i…

To be fair, it isn't at all clear if Occam's Razer doesn't point to a hijacking.

I think that the lack of clear & sufficient information makes Occam's Razer hard to apply.

Post reply on HN