Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto Denies All Bitcoin Ties in Verified Letter Via Lawyer

techcrunch.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 106 posts

Re: Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto Denies All Bitcoin Ties in Verified Letter Via Lawyer

#51

Post by wmf »

spinchange wrote: post #14
345723 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are talking about the anonymous person behind Bitcoin. I would put absolutely NOTHING past the original architect. Honestly, I would expect nothing else.

Would you expect him to not even be able to afford internet service or suffer financially while recovering from cancer and a stroke despite having an estimated 400MM worth of BTC?

Then you get into the "he deleted that BTC because it was just an experiment and he wasn't in it for the money" theories. There's no end to it.

Re: Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto Denies All Bitcoin Ties in Verified Letter Via Lawyer

#52

Post by lotsofmangos »

abvdasker wrote: post #37

I tend to believe the Newsweek article because a reputable journalistic source of that caliber would not run a story like that unless they had enough evidence to prove it. Because this guy is not a public persona they would probably otherwise be guilty of libel. -- EDIT: As gamblor956 pointed out they would be "liable" rather than "guilty". It does sound like he may have a case though, especially if Newsweek is wrong…

If the reporter is professing an opinion that Dorian is Satoshi based on their reading of the facts as they saw them, then it would be very difficult to claim this as libellous unless you could also prove that it was both false and an injurious thing to accuse someone of, in and of itself.

Re: Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto Denies All Bitcoin Ties in Verified Letter Via Lawyer

#53

Post by takeda »

zaidf wrote: post #23

How long before he denies this under oath? At that point he's risking criminal charges if he is found to be lying.

I'm surprised people even consider it is him.

Why a person who put so much effort to remain anonymous, was found through a phone book, because he used his real name in all correspondence?

Re: Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto Denies All Bitcoin Ties in Verified Letter Via Lawyer

#54

Post by bsamuels »

blhack wrote: post #35

Here is what doesn't make sense about Dorian Nakamoto being the Satoshi behind bitcoin: Here's a guy who code switches during conversations and emails to maintain either the secret identity of an old Japanese man living in CA and playing with model trains, or to maintain the secret identity of a sophisticated programmer who created a proof-of-work system called bitcoin. But then this advanced guy maintaining a secret…

The entire fiasco reminds me of reddit's witch hunts to get the boston bomber, along with dozens of disasters in the past where innocent people have been indicted by them.

Re: Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto Denies All Bitcoin Ties in Verified Letter Via Lawyer

#55

Post by bestdayever »

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #7

What about that guy who, after the original Newsweek story was posted, made a post about meeting Nakamoto after he bought an item from his girlfriend's bakery? Apparently he recognized him from the Newsweek photos of Dorian Nakamoto. Was that just a bit of overactive imagination? EDIT: The post I'm talking about https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7354326

Eye witness testimony is one of the worst pieces of evidence. Add that to the idea that you're required to retain that information since 2011 and it becomes pretty laughable.

Re: Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto Denies All Bitcoin Ties in Verified Letter Via Lawyer

#56

Post by vvpan »

sergiotapia wrote: post #2

>Shortly thereafter the reporter confronted me at my home. I called the police. That reporter is such a scumbag. What repercussions did she face?

The ethics here are very questionable. Wtf - you just find some dude, based on no real evidence, then you "out" him for something that's not criminal and give the internet trolls his whereabouts? What could be more "yellow press"? I really wish their ass got sued.

Re: Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto Denies All Bitcoin Ties in Verified Letter Via Lawyer

#57

Post by [deleted] »

DannyBee wrote: post #24
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #7

What about that guy who, after the original Newsweek story was posted, made a post about meeting Nakamoto after he bought an item from his girlfriend's bakery? Apparently he recognized him from the Newsweek photos of Dorian Nakamoto. Was that just a bit of overactive imagination? EDIT: The post I'm talking about https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7354326

The rate of mistaken id is ridiculous. For example, over 75% of DNA based exonerations were convicted based on mistaken ID's (and this is limited to those exonerations where DNA would be conclusive). Post-identification feedback (IE learning facts later) can often even alter the original memory someone has of an identification: http://nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=100715

[deleted]

Re: Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto Denies All Bitcoin Ties in Verified Letter Via Lawyer

#58

Post by michaelt »

declan wrote: post #42
abvdasker wrote: post #37

I tend to believe the Newsweek article because a reputable journalistic source of that caliber would not run a story like that unless they had enough evidence to prove it. Because this guy is not a public persona they would probably otherwise be guilty of libel. -- EDIT: As gamblor956 pointed out they would be "liable" rather than "guilty". It does sound like he may have a case though, especially if Newsweek is wrong…

Um, remember Newsweek's under different management. See my other post nearby. And it's not "guilty of" libel; it's more like "liable for defamation."

Both 'libel' and 'liable' are real legal words.

Libel refers to written/printed/online defamatory statements [1] - as opposed to slander, which is spoken defamation.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel#Libel

Post reply on HN