This does corroborate the oil rig worker's account of a seeing a plane burning midair.
MH370: A different point of view
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#42This doesn't explain the zigzagging trajectory of the plane after its disappearance: Indeed, soon after MH370 disappeared, reports emerged that recordings of Malaysian military radar returns showed an unidentified track that could correspond to the flight turning left onto a westward course and descending. At the time it was difficult to assess the validity of that claim. It’s been bolstered, however, by a Reuters re…
Also doesn't address telemetry being turned off dozens of minutes before last radio comm.
Re: MH370: A different point of view
#43This doesn't explain the zigzagging trajectory of the plane after its disappearance: Indeed, soon after MH370 disappeared, reports emerged that recordings of Malaysian military radar returns showed an unidentified track that could correspond to the flight turning left onto a westward course and descending. At the time it was difficult to assess the validity of that claim. It’s been bolstered, however, by a Reuters re…
Or the last ping received by the satellite, which would require a sharp turn to either the north or south after the last known trajectory. After it was well past the supposed target airport.
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#44If fire was the problem, why didn't the pilot just land by sea?
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
or the climb to 45k
Plenty of weird reasons to climb like that[1]. I think people dramatically underestimate how mechanical and/or electronic system failure combines with human misjudgement to make things operate in entirely unpredictable ways. I've never been involved in an air crash investigation, but I have done many system outage investigations. The majority of them[2] involve a failure of a hardware/software system, followed by man…
I don't know where you got your ATP from, but there isn't a good reason, in clear weather, to climb above the service ceiling for your air-plane.
Now, I don't miss-underestimate how failures happen, how they combine, but I know my procedures. If I'm pulling fuses for things, I'm going to first SQUARK 7700, have the co-pilot screaming on 121.5, whilst he is charged with flying the plane (following a heading, not dropping out of the sky, like AF447!) whilst I then follow the procedures for the kind of electrical fire. Even if it's only for 10 seconds, the 7700 will be picked up, the ATC will see it light up like an angry chirstmas tree. It will not be 'cancelled' by the transponder then being switched off, the operative would have to cancel it, which they wouldn't do until after contact had been reached. In the case of say 7500, they wouldn't take radio as reason to cancel it.
The point is, the transponder just happened to turn off at the perfect moment (between two ATC services) after the ACARS had been switched off long before.
If you had a fire, that had endangered physically separated, redundant systems in that manner, I doubt the plane would be able to fly for 7 hours. The 777 is a fly by wire plane.
However, if you wanted to drop off, un-noticed, it is the perfect time.
Occam's razor n all that. If I thought such failures were possible, as I've said before, I'd shred my pilots license tomorrow.
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#46The big thing that's been bothering me about the hijacking hypothesis is that there's no clear logical motive behind it. This indeed makes more sense than anything else I've read so far.
There aren't logical motives for school shootings, yet they still happen.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the author, the plane may have continued on auto-pilot after the crew had been killed by smoke inhalation. It's a large area to search.
This could also explain the climb to 45,000 feet if the plane was on auto pilot and the fire was messing with the instruments.
Not likely.
The Pitot static systems (which are redundant) on a 777 are very far aware from the transponders. So this fire that magically spread all the way across that, somehow allowed auto pilot to have enough elevator control, change the engine power, but not realise it was hitting the ceiling, then was able to calmly decent from an above service ceiling height?
Incredibly unlikely set of events.
Re: MH370: A different point of view
#48This does corroborate the oil rig worker's account of a seeing a plane burning midair.
Didn't he say that he saw it crash and that they didn't find it where he claimed?
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#49Re: MH370: A different point of view
#50Finding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is a problem google could solve by crowdsourcing the search on the google doodle
They could use an algorithm to generate different satellite images through the possible search images as the google doodle, they could put a toggle button, 'anything look like a plane or wreckage here?' Yes/no. For every yes, show it to more people, see if they agree
I’m sure google has better algorithm experts to figure out what the best images to show are than I can figure out,
but google can find that plane
I've already submitted this to google via email at proposals@google.com as suggested on http://www.google.com/doodles/about
I suspect there are people on HN who are fewer degrees of seperation from who figures out the google doodle than I am though
If you happen to be one of those people, who might be able to send a personal email, or send a text, or make a phone call to someone who could advocate for that being the google doodle, I would appreciate that
needless to say, if google was able to help solve this mystery, I would imagine that would be pretty good publicity for the company
Thanks for your consideration
(sorry for the spam) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7414422