I've got some animations of flight 68's path here:
http://findmh370.tumblr.com/
Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
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Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
A team of freescale chip engineers for one. Also, the answer might well be "what" instead of who. Many people have pointed out that the cargo manifest hasn't been published, and that the airline declared 50 less seats as available for boarding than the plane had. This means it had several tons of cargo on board.
Gold? needs to be something worth stealing a plane for.
Reportedly some 50 seats were blocked off to save weight for extra cargo. Suppose each person plus their baggage weighs 80 kg, that's 4000 kg. Let's say 50% of that is taken up by containers, packing, and security devices, yielding 2000 kg of gold. It comes out to 90MM USD at today's prices. A lot of money, but probably not enough to go to so much trouble.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#153Just a quick question, but I'd have thought the number of airports where a plane the size of MH370 could land would be quite small. Is it not possible to work out the number of airports within it's range, and examine those?
Nothing stopping you doing a rough landing in a vast open area though, is there?
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would you need a 777 when you can probably pick up old Russian cargo planes much easier and for a fraction of the cost and without needing super skilled pilots?
Extreme long range? It was a 777-200ER (Enhanced Range) - that model holds records for distance flying: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777#777-200ER
If we assume that there is some level of outside planning here, with maybe a state actor involved, then getting the plane secretly fuelled up beyond the assumed 7.5 hour range would perhaps not be too difficult.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#155There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…
Who is to say that any ransom demand would have been made publicly? It may well be that one has been made but that we just don't know about it.
The hijackers would probably want to make it public. It's an insurance for their safety right now. A government might simply bomb the parked aircraft and blame it on a crash or the hijackers.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a bit Bond/cyberpunk-esque, but one could imagine a scenario where an evil villain could short a company's stock and then kill off 20 extremely valuable employees of said company When was the last time you heard of 20 employees of a company being murdered? To do so by killing 220+ other people makes such a theory even more absurd.
It happened to 13 separate companies on September 11, 2001 ( http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/twintowers/ ). It was sort of not targeted at those companies, but on the other hand it sort of was. And it certainly had huge market impact.
It happened to 13 separate companies on September 11, 2001 (http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/twintowers/). It was sort of not targeted at those companies, but on the other hand it sort of was. And it certainly had huge market impact.
I knew I should have specified something along the lines of "and as part of a criminal fraud or theft or deliberate talent destroying act, or..."
As you say, the sole purpose of 9/11 wasn't to target those specific companies.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#157The folks over at airliners.net have pointed out that the 777's collision avoidance system only works if both planes' transponders are turned on. That doesn't mean this scenario is impossible, but it does raise the level of sophistication required. Sadly, I feel like whatever happened, the amount of sophistication involved increasingly points toward the involvement of one or more state actors. If that's the case, I'm…
I hope you're wrong. If a state was involved that would mean that boarding a plane is extremely dangerous from now on.
This case is really suspicious but I still think this was just an accident.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#158There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…
It doesn't make any sense to kill 240 people, including babies and kids. Especially if this is a terrorist act, they could not religiously justify that, especially since these are mainly Chinese people rather than American.
Note that there was a 'terrorist attack' in China a week or two earlier, in which five Uighur separatists with knives killed 30 random people and wounded hundreds in a crowded train station, before being shot by police. This shows that there are definitely 'terrorists' (not using the scare quotes because I necessarily disagree that they're terrorists, only because I honestly don't know what they are) who are interested in killing large numbers of Chinese people in the name of their cause.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#159Just a quick question, but I'd have thought the number of airports where a plane the size of MH370 could land would be quite small. Is it not possible to work out the number of airports within it's range, and examine those?
You could land on any hard-packed dirt surface, especially if you weren't too concerned about being able to take off again.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Not all terrorists are religious 2. Not all terrorists are after Americans 3. Religious terrorists can find a way to justify anything using their book of choice.
Agree w/ 3. Regarding 1 & 2, I may be somewhat provincial, but is there a non-religious group who has it in for the Chinese? edit: ... especially one that is capable of this operation and not interested in publicizing their involvement in doing so.
Uighur separatists? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack