An interesting theory and article, but I can't help but feel like this reads too much like one of the classic conspiracy theory articles about 9-11/lizards/aliens/Area 51, etc.
That's what they want you to think.
Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
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Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's only one vague point of interest among many, but there were twenty Freescale employees on board flight 370. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/malaysia-airlines-...
I don't understand what the twenty Freescale employees have to do with anything and I keep seeing this fact mentioned in every discussion about MH370. How could they be important/valuable/dangerous enough to justify the hijacking or destruction of a commercial airliner containing hundreds of passengers? That sounds completely insane to me.
It's a bit Bond/cyberpunk-esque, but one could imagine a scenario where an evil villain could short a company's stock and then kill off 20 extremely valuable employees of said company. Not saying that's what happened here, but 20 of the right employees of a company could be very significant.
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#113A theory is that the cargo area of the plane contained valuable goods: gold, silver, diamonds, etc and that's what the hijackers were after. From this: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-15/missing-malaysian-f... the 777 can have up to 25 tons worth of cargo payload. 25 tons of gold is worth ~ $1B, that's quite a bit more than the value of the plane itself.
No one in their right mind would attempt to transport 25 tons of gold on a commercial passenger flight.
How do you transport 25 tons of gold across land and sea?
My guess is air freight is the safest method, does it matter if it goes on a DHL 777 or a Commercial 777? Either way, the plane could be hijacked.
But I suspect you'd have somebody with an insurance claim for $1 billion in gold, and an insurance company going bankrupt as a result.
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#114The folks over at airliners.net have pointed out that the 777's collision avoidance system only works if both planes' transponders are turned on. That doesn't mean this scenario is impossible, but it does raise the level of sophistication required. Sadly, I feel like whatever happened, the amount of sophistication involved increasingly points toward the involvement of one or more state actors. If that's the case, I'm…
> Sadly, I feel like whatever happened, the amount of sophistication involved increasingly points toward the involvement of one or more state actors. If that's the case, I'm starting to doubt that we'll ever find out what happened to this plane... Indeed. And not just the "what", but the "why" as well.
I think it's most likely the plane will be used in a terrorist action. For example in the next week there's a nucleair summit being held in The Hague:
http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/EH-eSUP-2014-01-NSS....
It would be a very hard to reach target, though.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#115Isn't it possible that one passenger may have left his cell phone on? Maybe if you get all of the passengers numbers and check if any of the phones connected to a tower you could locate it?
First of all, hijackers would have threatened passengers to give them their mobile phones. If the plane indeed was landed on a remote airport with the passengers alive, the hijackers would have stripped the passengers of their clothes to ensure nobody could bring weapons or devices with them. By now, most mobile phones (even the Nokia developing world ones) would have been out of battery.
I find it a little disturbing that the passengers would be so docile, especially after 9/11.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#116Isn't it possible that one passenger may have left his cell phone on? Maybe if you get all of the passengers numbers and check if any of the phones connected to a tower you could locate it?
First of all, hijackers would have threatened passengers to give them their mobile phones. If the plane indeed was landed on a remote airport with the passengers alive, the hijackers would have stripped the passengers of their clothes to ensure nobody could bring weapons or devices with them. By now, most mobile phones (even the Nokia developing world ones) would have been out of battery.
There could still have been a phone in a checked bag. They may have also gone the route of suffocating everyone by climbing to 45,000 depressurized instead of threatening passengers and risking a hero.
Sure the batteries would be dead now but what about connection that were made before they landed? I though that data is stored by most phone companies upto at least 6 months.
The fuel would have gone out before most of the phones I would think. If they landed and passed any tower while doing so there is a chance something was picked up.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not familiar with the inner workings of planes, but from what I've gathered, the timing of disabling the two tracking systems, which are on either end of the plane, is just about the same time it takes to get from one end of the plane to the other, and disable the 2nd tracking system (blackbox). Therefore, it would be a great coincidence that both of these tracking systems would be disabled at the same time. It s…
So you say the pilot does not have switches in the cockpit to turn equipment on or off? They have to WALK through the whole plane to turn devices on or off?! Bollocks.
Things that aren't meant to be turned on/off routinely by the pilot? why not? There's enough stuff going on in the cockpit...
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
my guess is that if it was hijacked by terrorists, the act is yet to come. They are after the plane, not the people.
Anything is possible, but my guess is that if they were hijacked, they had a plan that went wrong. It's far more likely, and it's happened before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_961
What i don't get:
The aforementioned link to the Ethiopian water landing says: "The incident is the only true water landing of a widebody airliner with survivors."
But: Wikipedia on water landing (ditching) shows a high survival rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ditching#Passenger_airplane_wat...
I'm confused.
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#119"Snuck" is a strange American word, the same as "dove" instead of "dived", eg. "he dove into the pool" instead of "he dived into the pool". I would read "snuck" as "sneaked". Another weird word is "gotten". And another strange and irritating phrase that is sneaking its way into English over here is "for free", but "free" is not a price so instead of "buy 3 eggs for £2.00", you get weird phrases "sign up now and get t…
You'll find much discussion of the growing popularity of snuck on Language Log:
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/index.php?s=snuck
Snuck is "orig. and chiefly U.S." according to the OED, but it's definitely growing in British usage, too: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sneaked%2Csnuc...
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree w/ 3. Regarding 1 & 2, I may be somewhat provincial, but is there a non-religious group who has it in for the Chinese? edit: ... especially one that is capable of this operation and not interested in publicizing their involvement in doing so.
The Tibetans. This is a plot by a group of violent fundamentalist Buddhist terrorists.
Genius.