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Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by KaiserPro »

ekianjo wrote: post #14
KaiserPro wrote: post #8

Nice idea, however I'd hope that modern radar is able to detect two aircraft of that size flying close together. Unless the perpetrators know the various limitations of each radar installation?

It's a matter of radar resolution. Radars can't distinguish flies apart from each other, so obviously there are technology limitations anyway.

It is indeed, in the 40's they had this issue, when planes were a ~mile apart they become a mush on the screen.

However thats not the case nowadays. Even if you had a nasty radar from the 80's you see that the trace is twice the size it should be. (We'll I'd hope)

I'd assume that military radar ops would be looking for this, as this is a great way to sneak assets about.

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by ckozlowski »

downandout wrote: post #13

There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…

The fact that the plane was taken up to 45,000, far above it's recommended limit, bothers me in this regard. What would the effects be on the passengers? Would this have been orchestrated in order to somehow incapacitate them?

I have no idea if the cockpit is pressurized separately from the rest of the plane, or if there's any way to tamper with the deployment of the plane's oxygen masks. It's all speculation on my part.

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by KaiserPro »

LordHumungous wrote: post #18
KaiserPro wrote: post #8

Nice idea, however I'd hope that modern radar is able to detect two aircraft of that size flying close together. Unless the perpetrators know the various limitations of each radar installation?

Maybe, but would the operators have the imagination to suspect it was something other than a glitch?

Hindsight is a wondrous thing eh?

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by pizza »

pogue wrote: post #10

All these theories... It's obviously at the bottom of the ocean. If not, it's here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

a part of me wants the plane to suddenly re-appear exactly where it went missing with everyone on the plane unaware that it was lost

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by KaiserPro »

ckozlowski wrote: post #22
downandout wrote: post #13

There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…

The fact that the plane was taken up to 45,000, far above it's recommended limit, bothers me in this regard. What would the effects be on the passengers? Would this have been orchestrated in order to somehow incapacitate them? I have no idea if the cockpit is pressurized separately from the rest of the plane, or if there's any way to tamper with the deployment of the plane's oxygen masks. It's all speculation on my p…

its all pressurised under the same envelope. The pilots have oxygen masks.

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by cnvogel »

LordHumungous wrote: post #18
KaiserPro wrote: post #8

Nice idea, however I'd hope that modern radar is able to detect two aircraft of that size flying close together. Unless the perpetrators know the various limitations of each radar installation?

Maybe, but would the operators have the imagination to suspect it was something other than a glitch?

It's likely that this could be detected by looking at recorded radar-data as a above-average number of "glitches" at this particular track.

But then, I also assume that modern radar systems have some way to automatically filter displayed tracks for "glitches" or temporary loss of contact to a airplane signal to avoid distracting or tiring out airspace controllers.

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by kiiski »

nashequilibrium wrote: post #16
downandout wrote: post #13

There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…

It doesn't make any sense to kill 240 people, including babies and kids. Especially if this is a terrorist act, they could not religiously justify that, especially since these are mainly Chinese people rather than American.

What makes you think these hypothetical terrorists are after Americans, not Chinese? And why is religion the only reason they could be doing this?

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by Robadob »

nashequilibrium wrote: post #16
downandout wrote: post #13

There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…

It doesn't make any sense to kill 240 people, including babies and kids. Especially if this is a terrorist act, they could not religiously justify that, especially since these are mainly Chinese people rather than American.

The Chinese are victims to terrorism to;

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230470990...

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by varjag »

nashequilibrium wrote: post #16
downandout wrote: post #13

There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…

It doesn't make any sense to kill 240 people, including babies and kids. Especially if this is a terrorist act, they could not religiously justify that, especially since these are mainly Chinese people rather than American.

Terrorists' rationales are often bizarre to non-indoctrinated: witness Oklahoma city bombing or Utøya. Besides if that was a doing of national separatist group in China, they'd have little problem with that.

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by houseofshards »

nashequilibrium wrote: post #16
downandout wrote: post #13

There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…

It doesn't make any sense to kill 240 people, including babies and kids. Especially if this is a terrorist act, they could not religiously justify that, especially since these are mainly Chinese people rather than American.

my guess is that if it was hijacked by terrorists, the act is yet to come. They are after the plane, not the people.
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