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As Deadly as a DDoS: ICANN Unleashes the Whois Accuracy Program

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Re: As Deadly as a DDoS: ICANN Unleashes the Whois Accuracy Program

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Post by afhof »

kijin wrote: post #28

How is this different from all the other online services that require you to click a link in an email in order to verify it, and refuse to give you full membership until you do so? Some of the registrars I use have implemented this policy lately. Turns out it's a non-issue as long as your contact info is valid and up to date (which it should already be). It doesn't conflict with whois privacy, either, contrary to all…

"(which it should already be)."

No, why should domains be required to attached to an individual person?

Re: As Deadly as a DDoS: ICANN Unleashes the Whois Accuracy Program

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Post by jrockway »

cschmidt wrote: post #29
jrockway wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do they email you if your contact email is on the domain they just suspended? Time to set a TTL of 100 years, or something, I guess.

You should never use a contact email that is on the domain for the DNS record in question. Only bad things can result. I use my most basic fastmail.fm email for that purpose.

google.com appears to use a google.com email address in its DNS record.

Re: As Deadly as a DDoS: ICANN Unleashes the Whois Accuracy Program

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Post by jrockway »

dangrossman wrote: post #27
jrockway wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I have gotten physical mail with exactly that pitch.

Hopefully not since 2003 when the FTC had a court enjoin that specific company from making misleading statements about renewals in their postal mail. The mails they send out now look like this: "As a courtesy to domain name holders, we are sending you this notification of the domain name registration that is due to expire in the next few months. When you switch to Domain Registry of America, you can take advantage of…

It was past 2003. I think I registered jrock.us in 2004.

But yes, they may have mentioned "this is not a bill", but if they did, the font was so small as to be unreadable. I knew it wasn't a bill because I knew that my domain was registered through someone else.

Re: As Deadly as a DDoS: ICANN Unleashes the Whois Accuracy Program

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Post by EGreg »

adventured wrote: post #30
EGreg wrote: post #24

Okay why are we still using a centralized domain name system with authorities? Do we enjoy the crazy keyholders from various countries meeting in secret thing? We can have many decentralized ways of registering and transferring domains. Namecoin is one, but how hard is it to decentralize the DNS database?

To honestly answer your question: the we you refer to isn't in control / power. The system is centralized because the control over nations is centralized. It will remain that way so long as political power remains centralized. Particularly given the immense importance of the internet economy now to most major nations. The political powers that be are not about to let go of something so important. The domain name syst…

What is to prevent an open source DNS server to be deployed all around the world by various people? And browser makers would just add it to the list of servers once it gets big enough.

Until then, people could download a program or instructions that would add it, similarly to Google's DNS or OpenDNS

Except it would not use the regular DNS system on the back end, but supplement it with its own rules eg not taking a domain offline when registrars do.

Re: As Deadly as a DDoS: ICANN Unleashes the Whois Accuracy Program

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Post by jessaustin »

jrockway wrote: post #32
cschmidt wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should never use a contact email that is on the domain for the DNS record in question. Only bad things can result. I use my most basic fastmail.fm email for that purpose.

google.com appears to use a google.com email address in its DNS record.

Google probably have a real live person they can call if this gets messed up, or even has the potential to get messed up a few months from now.

Re: As Deadly as a DDoS: ICANN Unleashes the Whois Accuracy Program

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Post by quasque »

EGreg wrote: post #24

Okay why are we still using a centralized domain name system with authorities? Do we enjoy the crazy keyholders from various countries meeting in secret thing? We can have many decentralized ways of registering and transferring domains. Namecoin is one, but how hard is it to decentralize the DNS database?

Alternative DNS roots exist [1] but they're not going to receive widespread adoption as the current system is deeply ingrained into how the Internet works, and works well enough. Even if it was massively flawed, people would still be unlikely to change to something new in a timely manner due to network effect - just look at the poor adoption rate of IPv6 despite IPv4's inadequacies. Or our continued reliance on SMTP with all its problems.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root

Re: As Deadly as a DDoS: ICANN Unleashes the Whois Accuracy Program

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Post by kolev »

ICANN is a mafia! They did this to actually force some old domains to get back into the market. ICANN as an organization will profit little from this, but the people bribing them (domainers, auction sites, domain escrows, etc.) will vastly profit from it. Imagine what would happen if somebody sends you a letter and they get back a letter saying that you cannot receive the letter as you didn't verify your name with USPS? It's 2014 and things like redemption period and fees are daylight legalized scams. I cannot believe that we allow ICANN to do whatever they want with us for so long!

Re: As Deadly as a DDoS: ICANN Unleashes the Whois Accuracy Program

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Post by axaxs »

What is your complaint, exactly? I'd be happy to know that someone cannot transfer my domain out nor change my contact information without verification. 15 days is more than ample time, assuming I initiated the action. And what the hell does DDos have to do with any of it?
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