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Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by Eliezer »

jerf wrote: post #20
wglb wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you mean the straw that broke the camel's back?

I like to refer to things like this as "the brick that broke the camel's back". "Straws" that break the camel's back should be reserved for an insignificant annoyance that sets you off after a long period of building up grievances; calling it the brick implies the long buildup of grievances but also that this one is pretty significant. (And it tends to get a chuckle, which is a plus in my book.) I think this is a pre…

And if it's really large, "the anvil that broke the camel's back".

Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by yumraj »

hellweaver666 wrote: post #27
antipax wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guess the GV thing was the tip of the iceberg for him.

To be honest, A lot of people are blaming Apple for the whole Google Voice thing - I'm pretty sure that Apple were pressured to remove it by AT&T. Skype only got away with being published because it only works for calls over wifi. As for all the other GV apps, I'm pretty sure they were only removed because AT&T became aware of them as a side effect of the official app being published.

Let me ask a simple Qs: Why would AT&T (if it was involved) ask to only remove the GV app on iPhone? Wouldn't Blackberry and Android have lost their GV apps too?

Blackberry and Androind users can still user GV apps, and AT&T has denied any involvement in this fiasco, leads me to believe it was all Apple's doing.

Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by JacobAldridge »

Eliezer wrote: post #41
jerf wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like to refer to things like this as "the brick that broke the camel's back". "Straws" that break the camel's back should be reserved for an insignificant annoyance that sets you off after a long period of building up grievances; calling it the brick implies the long buildup of grievances but also that this one is pretty significant. (And it tends to get a chuckle, which is a plus in my book.) I think this is a pre…

And if it's really large, "the anvil that broke the camel's back".

"Man, I'm guessing that was the nuclear warhead that broke the camel's back."

"And destroyed most of his neighborhood."

Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by michaelneale »

markm wrote: post #40
boredguy8 wrote: post #25

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Yeah, since he's been saying Eric is 'dead to me' for quite a while. Still one of the best tech 'gossip' blogs out there.

Daniel Lyons, (aka. Fake Steve) also wrote this article for Newsweek called "Lyons: Why Good Web Sites Should Not Be Free". Lyons pandered to the Newsweek demographic which for the most part wouldn't be heavy Internet users. Newsweek Article: http://www.newsweek.com/id/208163 Reddit discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/942qd/why_old_people_sh... HN discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=722991 No…

He also has some notoriety by going in to bat for SCO (which I recall he now regrets): http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/08/07/daniel-lyons-fake-s...

Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by litewulf »

siculars wrote: post #37
litewulf wrote: post #32

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"who I call" is a massive subset of my social graph. Most of the things I do are arranged by email/IM. We agree to go to someone's house at a particular time, and then we do so. I'd only call if I managed to get lost.

you and i are here on hn. we are the definition of subset. your subset is infinitesimally small in the macro environment of voice conversations. there are billions of people who do not have computers - but do have nokia cell phones. that is the growth market of the next decade. imho, the us market will lead the way as a test bed for services of this nature to be rolled out globally.

I'm going to say that of my "cohort" in college, email+facebook events were by far the most effective ways to get people to go to a place at a given time.

Further, I would wager my parents' generation do much of this planning via word of mouth at church. This is highly anecdotal though.

(In any case, I think you overstate the set of people without computers but with cell phones from which reasonable social graphs can be generated. Some places cells are rare enough they are shared by a group of people...)

Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by litewulf »

thorax wrote: post #33
litewulf wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"who I call" is a massive subset of my social graph. Most of the things I do are arranged by email/IM. We agree to go to someone's house at a particular time, and then we do so. I'd only call if I managed to get lost.

You mean arranged via gmail/gtalk?

Yes.

(The penetration numbers I've heard for gmail mean that college students do not use technology like anyone else. Then again, they're a pretty sweet marketing demographic...)

Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by jerf »

Eliezer wrote: post #41
jerf wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like to refer to things like this as "the brick that broke the camel's back". "Straws" that break the camel's back should be reserved for an insignificant annoyance that sets you off after a long period of building up grievances; calling it the brick implies the long buildup of grievances but also that this one is pretty significant. (And it tends to get a chuckle, which is a plus in my book.) I think this is a pre…

And if it's really large, "the anvil that broke the camel's back".

I hate to reply with fluff, but I'm pretty sure I've actually said that too. Apparently there's a canonical scale of heaviness in our culture.

I definitely have never nuked a poor camel, though (per JacobAldridge's reply), though I'll see what I can do about correcting that oversight. Also perhaps I'll drop a Library of Congress on an unsuspecting camel.

Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by astrec »

huherto wrote: post #22

A little OT.But I think it is really, really cool that a very technical person is acknowledged to be a capable CEO. Many companies still consider technical people incapable to be leaders (just by definition). Agree some techies may not have the desire or the social skills to lead but not all techies are like that.

My boss is an ex programmer, gear freak, award winning CEO, and a very successful entrepreneur. They do exist and can be awesome to work for.

Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by huherto »

astrec wrote: post #48
huherto wrote: post #22

A little OT.But I think it is really, really cool that a very technical person is acknowledged to be a capable CEO. Many companies still consider technical people incapable to be leaders (just by definition). Agree some techies may not have the desire or the social skills to lead but not all techies are like that.

My boss is an ex programmer, gear freak, award winning CEO, and a very successful entrepreneur. They do exist and can be awesome to work for.

My current boss is cool, but still I envy you. (good envy)

Re: Dr. Eric Schmidt Resigns from Apple’s Board of Directors

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Post by Eliezer »

JacobAldridge wrote: post #43
Eliezer wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And if it's really large, "the anvil that broke the camel's back".

"Man, I'm guessing that was the nuclear warhead that broke the camel's back." "And destroyed most of his neighborhood."

There are more ways to skin a cat than nuking the site from orbit, but it's the only way to be sure.
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