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Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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If I wasn't on Comcast I would try this out.. I've had to resort to a lower-tech approach: * Rent a cheap server * Run transmission daemon on it * SSH into server, port forward 9091 * Connect to localhost:9091 and add torrents that way * When downloads are done, scp them off to my local network Con: way too many steps involved Pro: encrypted to/from my local network I know this is not nearly the same as Popcorn Time,…

I have a similar setup, but I've automated a few more steps. I have couchpotato[1] running on my VPS. When I add a movie to it, it'll find and drop the torrent file to a directory, where rtorrent will pick it up and immediately start downloading it. When it finishes, it moves the files to a temporary directory, where couchpotato will detect them, rename them and move them to yet another directory, where Git Annex Ass…

What is the advantage of this compared to just running everything on the pi?

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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I have a similar setup, but I've automated a few more steps. I have couchpotato[1] running on my VPS. When I add a movie to it, it'll find and drop the torrent file to a directory, where rtorrent will pick it up and immediately start downloading it. When it finishes, it moves the files to a temporary directory, where couchpotato will detect them, rename them and move them to yet another directory, where Git Annex Ass…

What is the advantage of this compared to just running everything on the pi?

Well, I like to keep decent ratios (usually 3), which would keep my asymmetric home connection too busy - whereas my cheap VPS can do 1Gpbs (burst). And in my experience, the Pi doesn't handle well heavy random IO over the USB/ethernet bus - I had downloads with 20-40% of blocks corrupted upon verification.

And of course, while I don't consider it a problem where I live, removing the torrenting from your connection to a VPS in the Netherlands reduces the chances of having legal problems.

And the VPS isn't a dedicated seedbox - I'd still use it for my email server (Spamhaus' PBL prevents me from sending from my home connection), Tiny Tiny RSS hosting, website hosting, etc.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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> Piracy is not a people problem. It’s a service problem. I'd say its a pricing problem. Right now 'The Wolf of Wall Street' is available from Amazon Instant Video at $20. On your popular torrent site virtually the same product is available for $0 + (riskOfGettingCaught * $1,000,000 fine) = $0.000001 ? You can either try to increase the riskOfGettingCaught or decrease the legal price. I think the industry should do w…

>You can either try to increase the riskOfGettingCaught or decrease the legal price. Below $0.000001? Assuming everyone in the world buys that movie, it would only make $7000.

My initial reaction was also "you've priced your risk at less than 1 in a trillion", but then I realized this is risk per movie pirated not per person.

I still think it is way too low an estimate, but it might be closer if we assume that people who pirate movies tend to do so with thousands of movies.

But yeah, your chance of "getting caught" is way way higher than the number implied here.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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It's not like Apple has ads in their video service today, for their part :)

Oh god, Archer . Since FX took over in S4, their iTunes versions have between sandwiched with ads for other FX programs. ADS IN FULL-PRICED iTUNES DOWNLOADS. Filled me with such rage.

The best part? Those ads exist in pirated versions on the newsgroups as well!

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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As I was arguing with rayiner on another thread, this is a prime example of what is wrong with the legal industry in the United States especially: shit is so complex that litigation is expensive, so people with more money than you can sue you into oblivion even if the law is on your side. Another way of looking at it is that, as things stand now, the legal system is just another weapon the rich and influential can us…

Or what about if you treated all law practice as a public service making all lawyers civil servants? The government would pay for the lawyers on both sides, but you wouldn't be able to buy access to a better lawyer. You'd have the problem of excessive lawsuits, but you can counter that with forcing the losing party to pay a big fine that covers the cost of the lawyers. You would also have the problem of how to assign…

Isn't this the model we're trying to move toward in medicine?

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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post #93

> Piracy is not a people problem. It’s a service problem. I'd say its a pricing problem. Right now 'The Wolf of Wall Street' is available from Amazon Instant Video at $20. On your popular torrent site virtually the same product is available for $0 + (riskOfGettingCaught * $1,000,000 fine) = $0.000001 ? You can either try to increase the riskOfGettingCaught or decrease the legal price. I think the industry should do w…

It's a combination pricing, service, and product problem. Pirates get the same content, but far better - it plays on all of their devices, has no ads, plays on their favorite player (VLC, MPV, XBMC, whatever), and they can watch it whenever they want. The streaming versus downloading argument has also been won by the downloaders many times - local video is a better experience than streamed video [1]. It's an even big…

Pirating isn't all roses either. There's a lots of ads to support some of the services. Many services are dubious and try to make you install software that compromises your system integrity. It's not always easy to find the content in good quality. Some jargon needs to be learned. To know how to navigate these waters it means that time has been invested by the consumer.

I suspect there is a ratio between the available price and the perceived value of time from the consumer.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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post #313

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>You can either try to increase the riskOfGettingCaught or decrease the legal price. Below $0.000001? Assuming everyone in the world buys that movie, it would only make $7000.

My initial reaction was also "you've priced your risk at less than 1 in a trillion", but then I realized this is risk per movie pirated not per person. I still think it is way too low an estimate, but it might be closer if we assume that people who pirate movies tend to do so with thousands of movies. But yeah, your chance of "getting caught" is way way higher than the number implied here.

Yea its way too low an estimate, a cost between $0.01 - $1.00 per movie is probably more accurate.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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It's deeply frustrating that Bittorrent is still synonymous with piracy just like MP3 was in the 1990s. It's simply a protocol. One may use a technology like this for very good purposes, including independent film distribution. When I worked at Pearson, we could not convince network personnel to allow corporate Bittorrent for media content distribution to international sites because they were afraid auditors would balk at it for its connotations. It was clearly the best technology for the job and auditors have accepted it for similar uses at companies like Ebay and Paypal.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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It doesn't matter. The code is already out there. Respectfully, I think the authors didn't think much and were kinda dumb. The project had a great potential, it was barely legal, they bought a fight with the media industry, but the cherry-on-top is that they putted their asses on the line. They shouldn't have used their real names. Anonymise your accounts and be happy. But as I said, it doesn't matter. Everyone alrea…

Unless you really know what you're doing, it's hard to be anonymous online against a resourced, interested opponent.

http://grugq.github.io/

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Of course, they received money. So much coverage and stop it here? Who would believe that they are honest? As if the guy who invented torrent stopped working on torrent... There is a standard for this techno, it's called PPSP [1] it covers both "free" network (with a DHT tracker) and controlled networks (the one required for distributing protected content). There is even an free software that is based on it [2] and a…

Can not access the /no repo - maybe it's still private? Sounds interesting!
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