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Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit

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Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit

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Post by pyre »

ohsnapman wrote: post #12

My gut tells me there was probably sexism at GitHub, drama with founder's wife, AND she was probably not blameless either in this whole mess. It was disheartening to me to see people rally to her on Twitter and immediately cry for the sacking of GitHub before any facts or concrete allegations were made by anyone involved, her especially. That's the stuff angry mobs are made of.

True, but you can also witness the opposite on Twitter: Claims of sexism met with a deluge of trolls threatening to rape the claimant.

Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit

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Post by iwasphone »

iancarroll wrote: post #14
iwasphone wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it better to wait until all sides of the story have been told?

The likelihood she's lying is next to zero. You don't really make these things up...

HN really needs a reply bot that links to the appropriate wikipedia article on logical fallacies.

Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit

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Post by rdl »

iwasphone wrote: post #19

> Horvath then told her partner, also a GitHub employee... Protip: don't dip your pen in the company ink.

At big paranoid organizations (CIA, NSA, etc.), they actively encourage internal relationships and marriages, as it simplifies security modeling. But not really in the same group.

Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit

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Post by sudhirj »

iancarroll wrote: post #6

Until there's a second side to this my GitHub use is not going to continue. Sad to see this happen, but it's not hard to change origins on my repos to BitBucket or Gitlab. edit: and again, it's two commands to push my repo back. but i have no interest in being with github at this time

But why? Despite it's dubious origins, Github remains an excellent / superior product. One may not agree with the way they do things (and even that seems to be some, not everyone in the organization), but is that really a reason to stop using the product?

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic

Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit

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Post by patrickg_zill »

Some geeky types will be tempted, upon founding a startup, to thus not have ANY women in significant roles in the company, and to keep it as guys-only as possible; outsourcing as needed and doing the other legal legwork as required to stay under the headcount (is it >50 people?) to avoid the EEOC.

Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit

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Post by mynameishere »

Crazy how women can turn even canonically geeky/boring things like Github into soap operas like "General Hospital". You've got to wonder what kind of drama occurs in actual hospitals, with alpha-doctors and nurses side-by-side. I've heard stories.

Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit

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Post by ohsnapman »

pyre wrote: post #21
ohsnapman wrote: post #12

My gut tells me there was probably sexism at GitHub, drama with founder's wife, AND she was probably not blameless either in this whole mess. It was disheartening to me to see people rally to her on Twitter and immediately cry for the sacking of GitHub before any facts or concrete allegations were made by anyone involved, her especially. That's the stuff angry mobs are made of.

True, but you can also witness the opposite on Twitter: Claims of sexism met with a deluge of trolls threatening to rape the claimant.

That's worse than disheartening to me. That's straight up disgusting. I haven't seen the threats yet but it doesn't surprise me.
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