Goodbye Popcorn Time • Hacker News Board

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by lucb1e » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:15 AM UTC

darkarmani wrote: post #153

Crito wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You also need to factor in how much my time and effort is worth to me. I'd much rather spend a few dollars and get a DRM free copy, than spend a few minutes on a shaddy ad/malware ridden torrent site to get a free DRM free copy.

You'll spend more time watching the locked content before the show for most DVDs than it takes to download.

Challenge accepted. Will try to find a DVD with some of that stuff tomorrow (it's 3:18am, parents would not appreciate).

Edit: Does searching a dvd count as time spent before being able to watch the movie? Since you can't, ahem, copy dvds to your NAS (they're encrypted with CSS to prevent yarr pirates y'know).

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by lucb1e » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:23 AM UTC

User8712 wrote: post #31

Well, this is disappointing. It seemed like a nicely designed application, with an enthusiastic development team behind it. And now, within days, it's gone. If they wanted to avoid piracy, I think it might have had some potential going the legal route as well. It would be a nice interface to browse legal movies, documentaries, web series, etc. Strange decision, I could see a company like Netflix buying them out for a…

> I could see a company like Netflix buying them out

Really? I think Netflix would "suddenly" have each and every contract broken and no content can be watched on Netflix services ever again.

Well, with the exception of anything that runs on Popcorn, of course.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by lucb1e » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:28 AM UTC

somesay wrote: post #20

leantx wrote: post #13

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I couldn't find the related public key to decrypt it :(

If they like the public to read it, they would have used a signature instead of an encryption. ;)

I haven't checked, but I'd guess he means the public key id whose private key should be used for decryption.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by lucb1e » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:33 AM UTC

xtracto wrote: post #187

kilian wrote: post #147

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Not everyone lives in the USA ;) I don't know, but it could very well be that there are precedents in their home country Argentina supporting the 'legal' conclusion.

In Mexico, sharing this kind of IP is legal as long as it is not done for-profit ("sin fines de lucro"): http://www.regiosfera.com/es-legal-compartir-contenido-en-mx...

In the Netherlands I believe any tool that is only used for illegal purposes is in itself illegal. For example hacking tools that are not meant for penetration testing would be illegal. Whether this would apply to applications providing copyright infringement on a huge scale, I don't know, though with the initially lost Pirate Bay case (which I have yet to see legal grounds for) it doesn't look too good.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by lucb1e » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:35 AM UTC

Oculus wrote: post #81

I don't think this was Popcorn's choice. I'd be willing to bet their hand is being forced here.

I think it was their choice, the way they go about it. They've given a huge middle finger to the copyright industry while staying within legal bounds and showing off their programming skills. Can't say they're set for life, but odds are they made themselves a pretty solid future without being dragged along with this project any further.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:37 AM UTC

amirouche wrote: post #96

Of course, they received money. So much coverage and stop it here? Who would believe that they are honest? As if the guy who invented torrent stopped working on torrent... There is a standard for this techno, it's called PPSP [1] it covers both "free" network (with a DHT tracker) and controlled networks (the one required for distributing protected content). There is even an free software that is based on it [2] and a…

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Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by baxter001 » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:37 AM UTC

A nice wrapper around something like btcat: http://jordic.com/btcat/btcat is all that's really needed, a great part of popcorn time was purely in the marketing and presentation, the technology is relatively straight forwards.

Now it's clear there's a demand for similar tools this isn't a tide that can be stopped.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by ghx » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:49 AM UTC

Kinda random, but I associate the word "popcorn" with time, because when I was a kid growing up in the Bay Area, we always dialed POP-CORN (767-2676) to get the current time. Probably just a coincidence?

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by jhansen858 » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:56 AM UTC

cettox wrote: post #151

slang800 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As you predicted, it looks like the new "official" repo is here: https://github.com/isra17/popcorn-app and people have already begun work on getting it working again.

I was unaware of that repo yet, it took me 1 hour to get it working though some features was disabled : https://github.com/cettox/popcorn-app and for precompiled executables visit http://kemald.com/pt/popcorn.html

This is the comment I came here for. Thank you.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Post by tinalumfoil » Sat, Mar 15, 2014, 2:58 AM UTC

mentos wrote: post #93

> Piracy is not a people problem. It’s a service problem. I'd say its a pricing problem. Right now 'The Wolf of Wall Street' is available from Amazon Instant Video at $20. On your popular torrent site virtually the same product is available for $0 + (riskOfGettingCaught * $1,000,000 fine) = $0.000001 ? You can either try to increase the riskOfGettingCaught or decrease the legal price. I think the industry should do w…

>You can either try to increase the riskOfGettingCaught or decrease the legal price.

Below $0.000001? Assuming everyone in the world buys that movie, it would only make $7000.