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Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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Unfortunately the law has to be complex and extremely detailed. You can't really use vague non specific terms when it comes to defining laws.

Somehow people managed to do just that for thousands of years

If by this you mean your life depends on the mood of your king that day, I'm going to have to disagree.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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post #108

I've scanned this whole thread and there's not a single post that is at all critical of the intentions behind Popcorn Time. I guess you're all okay with a world where content creators don't eat. Or do you have a better idea than copyright? If so, by all means let's hear it. I promise you that the person who solves that problem in an accessible way will be the next Mark Zuckerberg, or at least Tim Berners-Lee. Every s…

The cost of making a film is getting lower as are P&A expenses required to release them. This disruption is imminent but we shouldn't go around studios -- we need to work with them to develop an alternative to theatrical releases.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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post #93

> Piracy is not a people problem. It’s a service problem. I'd say its a pricing problem. Right now 'The Wolf of Wall Street' is available from Amazon Instant Video at $20. On your popular torrent site virtually the same product is available for $0 + (riskOfGettingCaught * $1,000,000 fine) = $0.000001 ? You can either try to increase the riskOfGettingCaught or decrease the legal price. I think the industry should do w…

I think Steam has shown that it is not a pricing problem.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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post #93

> Piracy is not a people problem. It’s a service problem. I'd say its a pricing problem. Right now 'The Wolf of Wall Street' is available from Amazon Instant Video at $20. On your popular torrent site virtually the same product is available for $0 + (riskOfGettingCaught * $1,000,000 fine) = $0.000001 ? You can either try to increase the riskOfGettingCaught or decrease the legal price. I think the industry should do w…

It's a combination pricing, service, and product problem. Pirates get the same content, but far better - it plays on all of their devices, has no ads, plays on their favorite player (VLC, MPV, XBMC, whatever), and they can watch it whenever they want. The streaming versus downloading argument has also been won by the downloaders many times - local video is a better experience than streamed video [1]. It's an even big…

I enjoyed that link immensely. Such a welcome change of pace.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

#185
post #68

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I doubt it would be more than zero.

Well, I watched 300 on it, and I owned a copy of 300 it just so happens to be HD-DVD...and at home.

Did your HD-DVD copy came with signed rights to distribute the movie to third parties?

If not, then you were illegally distributing the film while you were watching it using PopcornTime.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

#186
post #93

> Piracy is not a people problem. It’s a service problem. I'd say its a pricing problem. Right now 'The Wolf of Wall Street' is available from Amazon Instant Video at $20. On your popular torrent site virtually the same product is available for $0 + (riskOfGettingCaught * $1,000,000 fine) = $0.000001 ? You can either try to increase the riskOfGettingCaught or decrease the legal price. I think the industry should do w…

LOL. And then if you're Hulu, start cramming ads back into paying users' faces. I miss the days when people threw sledghammers into giant TV screens to free us from this hell. Or was that a movie?

I actually asked some engineers at Hulu about this during a job interview, specifically about the fact that the same commercial often plays three or more times during a single show. They understood the problem but apparently companies pay for spots on certain shows. Thats why you only see the jack links commercial on tosh's animated show (no one else wants to advertise on it).

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

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post #147

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And even if you had to make a legal / not legal binary choice, popcorn time wasn't legal. How do you check 4 times and not read MGM Studios, Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd.

Not everyone lives in the USA ;) I don't know, but it could very well be that there are precedents in their home country Argentina supporting the 'legal' conclusion.

In Mexico, sharing this kind of IP is legal as long as it is not done for-profit ("sin fines de lucro"):

http://www.regiosfera.com/es-legal-compartir-contenido-en-mx...

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

#189
post #151

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I was unaware of that repo yet, it took me 1 hour to get it working though some features was disabled : https://github.com/cettox/popcorn-app and for precompiled executables visit http://kemald.com/pt/popcorn.html

This seems to quit immediately for me in Mac :(

Others already reported problems in mac, yet I am unable to debug it for mac currently.

Re: Goodbye Popcorn Time

#190
post #68

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I doubt it would be more than zero.

Well, I watched 300 on it, and I owned a copy of 300 it just so happens to be HD-DVD...and at home.

owning it in DVD doesn't mean you can download it through torrents. I know this is stupid though...
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