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Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by vertex-four »

EGreg wrote: post #34
vertex-four wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What if I don't agree with the UK government views on say freedom of speech? Do as some are doing, and set up GNU MediaGoblin[0] on a server for yourself and friends. [0] http://mediagoblin.org/

How is MediaGoblin different than just NGiNX with extensions to handle streaming video and sound?

How is Youtube different than that? In fact, why do people, even many developers, use CMSes? Most people like a management UI, the ability to easily upload from a multitude of devices, and all the other things that a dynamic app can give you. MediaGoblin also transcodes uploaded files automatically to be playable with common HTML5 media players. There's also federated commenting and following infrastructure in development.

You try setting up your system and inviting your family and friends to use it. People can use a MediaGoblin instance that you set up for them without much effort, with no additional software, and with a fairly decent user experience.

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Jugurtha wrote: post #31

Good morning, UK... I don't encourage that thing Google is doing, however, it's 2014 and it's only now the UK is doing something to go back from UKistan to the United Kingdom. I'm from Algeria and the UK showed great hospitality to extremists calling for killing us from the foggy London streets. They allowed that in the name of democracy and freedom of speech. Easy being a democracy when what the extremists do isn't…

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Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by SixSigma »

Jugurtha wrote: post #31

Good morning, UK... I don't encourage that thing Google is doing, however, it's 2014 and it's only now the UK is doing something to go back from UKistan to the United Kingdom. I'm from Algeria and the UK showed great hospitality to extremists calling for killing us from the foggy London streets. They allowed that in the name of democracy and freedom of speech. Easy being a democracy when what the extremists do isn't…

We've had terrorism on UK soil for 1000's of years. You may even have heard of The Gunpowder Plot.

Free media means that the govt. has lost control of the conversation, they want it back. The key sentence in that piece is ' the government wanted more power to deal with material "that may not be illegal but certainly is unsavoury and may not be the sort of material that people would want to see or receive".'

One man will decide what 60million people "want to see".

I want to watch people die, in horrible and disturbing circumstances. http://reddit.com/r/watchpeopledie who is anyone to deny me that freedom.

The government already raised the spectre by trying to have Facebook remove a link http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/10395816/Davi...

It's Daily Mail politics, by people who don't understand.

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by Crito »

lclarkmichalek wrote: post #8
guylhem wrote: post #4

What if I don't agree with the UK government views on say freedom of speech? And why the UK government? What about giving that same power to the government of Afghanistan for example? From a utilitarian perspective, they could use that "superflagger status" to prevent the spread of videos that have lead to violence in the past. One simple example : http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/google-remove-riot-spa... Howev…

No, the video is the problem. People's words, be they transferred by video, television, or just print, have inspired people to do things ranging from the horrendous to the amazing. Speech is not innocent, which is all the more reason to keep it free.

"Inspired" violence is a pathetically low bar that should be rejected by anybody with any interest in free speech. Scorsese's Taxi Driver inspired John Hinckley Jr, but no reasonable person that believes in a free society would think Scorsese in any way or capacity responsible for the assassination attempt on Reagan.

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by basicallydan »

ajcarpy2005 wrote: post #26
basicallydan wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes it sound like Google is humouring the Home Office a little. I suppose the point of the "super-flagger" status is that whomever has that title is known by Google to not be a troll, who flags wildly and arbitrarily.

You mean a government can't troll? :/

I think a government is capable of trolling. I think it's less likely for a government to troll than an individual Internet user, in the traditional "trolling" sense.

Trolling isn't just "pissing off other users", it's "pissing off other users for the lulz". That's a very dumbed-down definition of trolling, too. I think it's unlikely that a government would piss anybody off just for the sake of it. I suspect they'd have motives to do with economic or social goals on some national or international level.

However, that doesn't mean that this alleged power can't and won't be abused in the way that a troll might abuse the flag power.

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by Jugurtha »

SixSigma wrote: post #44
Jugurtha wrote: post #31

Good morning, UK... I don't encourage that thing Google is doing, however, it's 2014 and it's only now the UK is doing something to go back from UKistan to the United Kingdom. I'm from Algeria and the UK showed great hospitality to extremists calling for killing us from the foggy London streets. They allowed that in the name of democracy and freedom of speech. Easy being a democracy when what the extremists do isn't…

We've had terrorism on UK soil for 1000's of years. You may even have heard of The Gunpowder Plot. Free media means that the govt. has lost control of the conversation, they want it back. The key sentence in that piece is ' the government wanted more power to deal with material "that may not be illegal but certainly is unsavoury and may not be the sort of material that people would want to see or receive".' One man w…

_We've had terrorism on UK soil for 1000's of years. You may even have heard of The Gunpowder Plot._

An assassination attempt on a King few centuries ago, oh my...

I agree partly with you on the liberty side, that's why I said I don't like what Google is doing (i.e: The way they are doing things) and by extension, the way the UK is doing things..

The way the Government here is doing things: Watch whatever you want, but if we catch you, you're screwd.

_I want to watch people die, in horrible and disturbing circumstances. http://reddit.com/r/watchpeopledie who is anyone to deny me that freedom._

:D

http://reddit.com/r/watchkidsgetfucked

Who's anyone to deny them that freedom, huh..

PS: If anyone of you clicked on that link - which I really expect to be a 404-, I hope you're using TOR, VPN, SSH tunneling, God mode encryption and really make sure every packet your machine is sending and receiving is immaculate :)

PPS: Oh, and if you clicked, you're a bad person..

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