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Re: Save more with Google Drive

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> How can anyone give license of their personal stuff to third party? How could they possibly operate a service that has as one of its primary features sharing and copying of your content, if you didn't give them a license to do that? This is standard boilerplate for just about any service that accepts user generated content for just about any reason.

If this is the standard boilerplate, then standard needs to be changed :). Why a "pure" storage service needs to do following? 1. "reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content." 2. Why they should have…

This is CYA boilerplate for all services and sounds worse than it is.

1. Reproduce = spread your data on multiple regions/drives/computers/etc inside their data storage systems Modify = format changes Create derivative works = automatic translation, format changes etc publish = show your files to people publicly perform = show your files to people (for video) publicly display = show your files to people (images) distribute = show your files to people

2. Because their datacenter cannot delete files instantly, another CYA point that prevents people from unsubscribing and suing if their files don't disappear the same instant they click the button.

All of that is just shitty legalese that attempts to prevent frivolous lawsuits, and every time some engineer takes it literally and assumes the worst.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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I think at this point I'm a little more comfortable paying more for a company that I know won't abandon this market. I know Dropbox will be Dropbox in 5 years. How can we be sure Google Drive won't be shuttered in less time? Google is very haphazard with their web properties. Sometimes they shutter them, sometimes they stuff them in the closet. Google Reader, Wave, etc, you know. the stories. What scares me more are…

I know Dropbox will be Dropbox in 5 years. As a counterpoint to that, Dropbox might not exist in 5 years. Google most likely will. Basically, there is no answer here that guarantees the future of your cloud storage. It's useful to access your files from multiple locations, but using it for long term file archival seems like asking for disappointment (as well as being a neat way of throwing money into the sky).

The sun may not rise tomorrow either derrr no dropbox is a household name in business communities you saying that is like saying microsoft & outlook might not be around in 5 years

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For what it's worth, SkyDrive has sync engines on both Windows and Mac while having apps + auto picture upload on Android, iPhone and of course Windows Phone.

Sadly you can't install SkyDrive in Windows 8.1. I know, I know, it comes integrated with Win8.1, but you can't use a local account, and your options to use SkyDrive with a local account are just nasty workarounds: http://www.ghacks.net/2013/11/09/access-skydrive-windows-8-1...

Yes but once you do have an account, I would say its the best file sync platform available. It never downloads the files until you click on them however it always displays all your files. No initial sync time and no taking up space for files you will never use. Its also safer because the majority of your files are never stored locally.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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twice as much pay.

Not sure where you're getting that math. $5/year (current price) vs $1.99/mo for 100GB = $23.88/year, which is about 5x more than I pay now.

AH, apologies. Thought your current was $5 per MONTH, and were comparing to the TB plan.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Google Checkout was a paid solution which google shutdown, leaving merchants stuck looking for alternatives. The fact you're paying for a solution from google (or anyone for that matter) doesn't ensure continued survival of the solution

Didn't exactly shut it down like they did with reader or others though. It was replaced by another product, Google Wallet. Reader received no replacement from Google.

Checkout!=Wallet. Checkout was a merchant solution

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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I stopped using Dropbox when their OS X client repeatedly got stuck syncing on most of my machines, and started pegging the CPU and draining my batteries. Tried reinstalling a few times months apart and promptly hit the same problem each time. Google Drive could maybe be useful if there existed some working FUSE implementation that would fit on cheap single board computers like the BeagleBoards and Raspberry Pi.

Anything wrong with: http://gdfuse.forge.ocamlcore.org/ ?

No, it worked mostly on my desktop last time I tried it (didn't seem robust vs. 500 errors from Google, and crashed a few times). However, it's not small when you include all the Ocaml libraries it depends on, so it's not an option if you want to run it from built-in flash. And cross compiling with Ocaml isn't quite straightforward, so you'll also need to maintain a build environment on ARM, MIPS or whatever you have (e.g. using QEMU).

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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what features am I losing by switching from Dropbox?

I've had problems with file integrity and sync issues with GDrive. Files wouldn't upload/sync for some reason. Hence why I went back to DropBox after some time. DB is also faster for me (perceived speed, didn't time it).

Local sync over local network with DropBox comes in really handily sometimes.

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It nags me that even at this great price I'm not jumping up and down to switch from Dropbox. Why is this? -- Once you start using Dropbox there are some serious network effects. It takes a lot of work to get all your friends (both work and personal) to move. -- Even though Google Drive is so much cheaper it just doesn't seem to have the usability of Dropbox. I find the web interface really hard to use for some reason…

Serious - how are friends involved with dropbox ? Now I'm a (traditional?) dropbox user, using dropbox as a synchronized folder between various computers combined with a remote backup. All I would need to do to transfer is send a few links to people to my new shared stuff (folder / album ) My only technical issue with transfer is actually transferring the file from Dropbox to Google ( 1 MBps upload ) and getting all…

DropBox client is better, DropBox web interface is easier to use and syncing is faster. I've had many issues with GDrive in the past that led me to stop using it abandon it and go back to DropBox. Sync issues, some files just refused to upload/sync, memory usage, speed, battery killer ... DropBox for me.

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For what it's worth, SkyDrive has sync engines on both Windows and Mac while having apps + auto picture upload on Android, iPhone and of course Windows Phone.

SkyDrive doesn't support Ubuntu Linux either. Basically I'm sick and tired of feeling unimportant to these companies. Why can Dropbox deliver an Ubuntu Linux client, while Google and Microsoft feel that's an unjustified cost? I mean, skipping over Linux users that are a significant chunk of the market if you ask me, but lets assume for a moment that Linux home users don't pay much for their software or whatever. What…

>Why can Dropbox deliver an Ubuntu Linux client, while Google and Microsoft feel that's an unjustified cost?

Because for Google and Microsoft, their services are cloud storage components of their strategic platforms, and support for other platforms is, where it exists at all (e.g., Drive's desktop sync application), a way to ease migration off of those platforms and into the vendor's strategic platform, whereas for Dropbox, the file storage is the strategic product.

Of course, that's why neither Google nor Microsoft need their storage products to make profit directly for them to be valuable.

> This is platform lock-in, pure and simple.

With Drive, which has an API on which third party can build sync apps for other platforms, I don't think its lock in. Its just a matter of prioritizing a tool whose business purpose is customer acquisition for the platforms where the most potential customers are.

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