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Re: The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

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Ok I got way off topic. I don't understand why Amazon.com is so intuitive but Mechanical Turk and AWS are so "bizarre".

I work with a few ex-AWSers. Apparently work conditions are terrible and there's a lot of churn. That would explain why the design is so inconsistent.

Re: The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

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post #92

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I felt the same way for a while, but eventually, while working on a large cloud-based project, I had an epiphany: the GUI is basically the phpMyAdmin interface of AWS. phpMyAdmin is great when you're first learning to work with the LAMP stack; it lets you fiddle with values, manually create databases, munge columns, etc. But. If there are multiple instances of your system running "in the wild" (even just within your…

I would suspect AWS makes most of their money from clients that manage instances that are in the mid to high double digits and beyond. For these clients its likely that at some point automation has kicked in and the APIs get the job done much better versus having someone spend time clicking away in a browser.

I know this is the case with probably all major clients to them. If I remember correctly from talking to Dropbox employees during a recruitment visit, they had spoken about how they helped Amazon AWS reach milestones as they accounted for approximately 50% of AWS's file storage service usage. Obviously this is done all programmatically as everything is at an extremely high scale.

Re: The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

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I feel like DO has no competitive advantage. They sell servers but then anyone with a reasonable infrastructure and programmers on payroll can scale the way they have. So while it's an impressive rise, it can't be taken for granted. Because all could falter over night. That's just the nature of the business and industry.

There are 4 avenues I think you can take in this market - 1) Price 2) Scalability/API (As in AWS style of instant spinup/spindown) 3) User experience for the dashboard and creation process 4) Configurability of your instances DO is currently fighting on 1 and 3 with a dash of two, which I think is very smart. They're not fighting with lowendbox providers for the lowest possible price, but they're competing with linod…

> You can't spin up/down quite as easily as amazon, but they're not targeting that exact use case anyway.

I found the opposite to be true, spinning up instances on DO is quicker and easier, using the web interface or the API. Or are you referring to auto-scaling and such?

Re: The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

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I currently use digitalocean for my blog, but I was recently pointed towards this article which concerns me greatly: https://vpsexperience.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/digital-ocean... If I cannot have freedom of speech on my blog, I will have to find a new provider that respects my freedom.

If you're looking for fully managed, you can always use European Privacy-Law Compliant Cloud Instances at tailoredclouds.com

Re: The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

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post #69

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That's a bit of a stretch, even for equivocation. Did you read the article in question? http://vpsexperience.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/googler-speaks... It took four comments, out of context, and made it into a slam. Bias of the rant aside, DO says that it was because of a TOS violation on privacy and defamation. It comes pretty close to outing where the person lives, what websites they run, and certainly makes plenty…

> It reads like someone bitter lost an internet argument when they couldn't bait the employee into saying something incriminating, and they wanted revenge. Exactly this. This guy baited someone to say something about his employer, posted quotes out of context and with obvious bias. The guy seems like an asshole.

So what? The beauty of the internet is that it lets everyone make themselves look like an asshole if they want. If every service provider took down content from assholes we'd lose 3/4 of the internet.

Re: The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

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> It reads like someone bitter lost an internet argument when they couldn't bait the employee into saying something incriminating, and they wanted revenge. Exactly this. This guy baited someone to say something about his employer, posted quotes out of context and with obvious bias. The guy seems like an asshole.

So what? The beauty of the internet is that it lets everyone make themselves look like an asshole if they want. If every service provider took down content from assholes we'd lose 3/4 of the internet.

But just think about how pleasant an internet that would be... daydreaming

Re: The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

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To people wondering if this is a temporary thing, or what Digital Ocean's competitive advantage is (since someone else can come along with the same price point): It's that the web interface, and process for starting a "droplet", is dead-simple and super-elegant, their support docs are comprehensive and easy to use, and they even do things like let you manage your own DNS records. And it all just works. Digital Ocean…

LOL. So funny that people always say things like this, that the real reason is its simpler.

Bullshit. The real reason is it is MUCH, MUCH cheaper.

And it works. That's the reason I use it. I am an honest person though, so most people probably won't share the same viewpoint.

Re: The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

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I'm trying to find a VPS provider that can do IPv6 and multiple IPv4. Digital Ocean really surprised me in having no IPv6 offering. What really surprised me is that you can't get IPv6 on Amazon's EC2. You can get a v6 address for a load balancer, but that's surely not the same thing. Linode does actually almost fit the bill, except that they require manual authorization for an additional IPv4 addresses. So there's no…

I've used Ramnode to good effect, so far. You get 16 IPv6 addresses by default, without even having to ask for 'em.

16 addresses? Or 16 /64's?

Re: The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

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post #157

To people wondering if this is a temporary thing, or what Digital Ocean's competitive advantage is (since someone else can come along with the same price point): It's that the web interface, and process for starting a "droplet", is dead-simple and super-elegant, their support docs are comprehensive and easy to use, and they even do things like let you manage your own DNS records. And it all just works. Digital Ocean…

LOL. So funny that people always say things like this, that the real reason is its simpler. Bullshit. The real reason is it is MUCH, MUCH cheaper. And it works. That's the reason I use it. I am an honest person though, so most people probably won't share the same viewpoint.

[citation needed]

The extremely low barrier to entry isn't just price point. It's hard to say which is more important, but the simplicity difference between DO and competitors is greater than the price difference.

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