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Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by dwg »

simonsarris wrote: post #9

I think at this point I'm a little more comfortable paying more for a company that I know won't abandon this market. I know Dropbox will be Dropbox in 5 years. How can we be sure Google Drive won't be shuttered in less time? Google is very haphazard with their web properties. Sometimes they shutter them, sometimes they stuff them in the closet. Google Reader, Wave, etc, you know. the stories. What scares me more are…

If you're only in it for the storage, I don't find it to be important whether or not Google Drive will eventually be shuttered—there is a very little barrier to switch to another provider if the need arises. Google has a good track record for letting you get your data out in such a case.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by e12e »

janinge wrote: post #341
jscheel wrote: post #53

This is quite tempting, but the Google Drive client is just too terrible. I've never once had a single problem with the Dropbox client. Ever.

I stopped using Dropbox when their OS X client repeatedly got stuck syncing on most of my machines, and started pegging the CPU and draining my batteries. Tried reinstalling a few times months apart and promptly hit the same problem each time. Google Drive could maybe be useful if there existed some working FUSE implementation that would fit on cheap single board computers like the BeagleBoards and Raspberry Pi.

Anything wrong with: http://gdfuse.forge.ocamlcore.org/ ?

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by isomorphic »

Legion wrote: post #211

Does this not apply to Google Apps? I went to add Google Drive Storage to our GA for Business account and the page said $89 per month per license for 1 TB. EDIT: So apparently I can let individual users buy individual Google Drive storage at the prices listed in this post (and listed here: https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375123?hl=en ). But as a Google Apps admin, if I want to buy licenses and manage them fo…

Are we sure that this isn't just an oversight, or they haven't gotten around to updating the Apps pricing page yet? I mean, it's not like Google has consistency problems across all of their properties.

However, I did the same thing as you when I read this post: I went to our GA for Business account to see the pricing.

Hopefully Google will rectify or clarify the situation.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by Aldo_MX »

rlu wrote: post #350
jimbokun wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Microsoft has SkyDrive, integrated with Windows and WinPhone. Apple has iCloud, integrated with OS X and with iOS. Clearly you can see a pattern." This is exactly the case for staying with Dropbox. Otherwise, your cloud provider has more leverage to lock you into their products. Dropbox is motivated to support multiple platforms.

For what it's worth, SkyDrive has sync engines on both Windows and Mac while having apps + auto picture upload on Android, iPhone and of course Windows Phone.

Sadly you can't install SkyDrive in Windows 8.1.

I know, I know, it comes integrated with Win8.1, but you can't use a local account, and your options to use SkyDrive with a local account are just nasty workarounds:

http://www.ghacks.net/2013/11/09/access-skydrive-windows-8-1...

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by cbr »

aqzman wrote: post #281
Spoom wrote: post #269

Theory: They're dumping to lower the valuation of Dropbox for a possible later acquisition. "Well, you could sell to us, or we could put you out of business."

If Google were to buy Dropbox what sort of benefit do you think they would get from it? I know there have been stranger acquisitions by Google, but I just can't think of any benefit to Google if they were to purchase Dropbox.

A linux client.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by dennisgorelik »

smokinjoe wrote: post #210
threeseed wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has a history of shutting even profitable projects. Dropbox doesn't. There is a legitimate reason to be wary of relying on anything Google.

What profitable projects have they dropped that would be along the same impact as Google Drive? Are you saying they may significantly cut down the cloud capabilities?

Google Checkout.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by Karunamon »

dennisgorelik wrote: post #356
smokinjoe wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What profitable projects have they dropped that would be along the same impact as Google Drive? Are you saying they may significantly cut down the cloud capabilities?

Google Checkout.

Didn't it just get merged with Wallet?

https://developers.google.com/wallet/

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by Paul12345534 »

abalone wrote: post #157
simonsarris wrote: post #9

I think at this point I'm a little more comfortable paying more for a company that I know won't abandon this market. I know Dropbox will be Dropbox in 5 years. How can we be sure Google Drive won't be shuttered in less time? Google is very haphazard with their web properties. Sometimes they shutter them, sometimes they stuff them in the closet. Google Reader, Wave, etc, you know. the stories. What scares me more are…

It is a bit scaremongery because if you're using it for backup you can just switch to another service if they announce its pending retirement. It's an inconvenience for sure, but not truly a significant reason to not go with Google. Besides, who knows where Dropbox or anyone else will be in 5 years. In 5 years they'll need to be turning a profit which could have a major impact on product and pricing, especially for t…

One reason I picked Crashplan (same price, $60 a year) over Backblaze (this might not apply to most people) is that Crashplan doesn't remove your deleted files if you use the option. That allowed me to backup several hundred DVDs of data to Crashplan simply by copying them to my hard drive, syncing them, then deleting them again.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by lstamour »

pwg wrote: post #292
lstamour wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then I did the math and realised I pay $1735.54 per year for my cable Internet... 300 down / 20 up with a 1 TB cap doesn't come cheap when no competition exists at those speeds. If it were even offered in my area, fibre from the same company is north of $3000/year, and for that all I get is symmetric uplink. Still, at 300 down, 1 TB = 8388608 mbits / 300 mbits/s = 466 minutes or just under 8 hours. And luckily, m…

Verizon FIOS business class: 99.99/month. Essentially 1200/year. 50Mbit down - 50Mbit up - no data caps (or so they say). And yes, I do (provided the other end is capable) see those speeds.

> provided the other end is capable

Yeah. I noticed that too -- if a site is slow, I now either blame the location-unaware Google DNS (because of crappy ISP-provided DNS) or I know to blame the site. Even if I hardcode an alkamai address for my favourite streaming site, the only way I get to top speed is by 802.11ac when my Nexus 5 is cooperating (it really likes the stability of G or N) or by plugging in with gigabit Ethernet. But wow, it makes the Internet at work seem blazing slow. A reverse from the 90s, eh? ;-)

Funny. I would have thought more people on HN would chime in with plans $100+. Of course it also makes it harder for me to shop for a dedicated server -- since I really want gigE or 10gigE to serve things fast enough to myself. And the sad truth is I know I'll see 600-1.2gbits over copper before I see fiber optics. I give it another 2-3 years tops. (Why? I'm already hooked up locally to 600mbps, but they only use half right now.) I just hope prices don't double again, as 5 years ago this plan was nearly half off for half the speed.

That said, I'd pay the same to Google Fiber if they chose Toronto next year (yes, I know it's near double), just so I could have a proper, local DNS service from my ISP with no search hijacking. Is it too much to ask a telco for respect to go along with speed?

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by kondro »

fh973 wrote: post #133

If you only care about the file storage (you don't have 1TB of Docs do you?), there is also NSA-free Hubic from OVH. https://hubic.com/ $13.50 per month for 10TB!

Good luck with ever using that.

From their T&Cs:

  The bandwidth is limited to 10 Mbit/s upstream and downstream. The connection speed also depends on the quality of the Customer's internet connection.
10TB @ 10Mbps == 92.6 days to transfer (up or down)
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